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Model: GLER331AS2 Brand: Frigidaire Age: 5 - 10 years
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anthonysessoms  
#1 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:31:32 PM(UTC)
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Came home today from being gone all weekend and found my laundry closet at about 100+ degrees. Dryer was not running, but found that coils stay on (bright orange) when timer knob is turned to an on cycle (timed or automatic, but no turning drum). I turn the knob to an off position and the coils turn off. Any idea what part to replace to keep the coils off when they are supposed to be off? The dryer is not running, but the coils stay on when timer knob is turned to a cycle.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:09:13 PM(UTC)
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There are two things that can cause that to happen. The first and most common is the heating coil shorts to the case it is mounted on or another spot that is ground. The second is if the centrifugal switch on the motor fails and the contacts stay welded together. It can be tested to determine which it is by measuring the voltage between the two heater terminals. If you read 240 VAC, the motor is bad. If 120 VAC or something close, the heater coil is shorted. Do you have a meter to test voltage with?
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#3 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:19:19 PM(UTC)
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There are two things that can cause that to happen. The first and most common is the heating coil shorts to the case it is mounted on or another spot that is ground. The second is if the centrifugal switch on the motor fails and the contacts stay welded together. It can be tested to determine which it is by measuring the voltage between the two heater terminals. If you read 240 VAC, the motor is bad. If 120 VAC or something close, the heater coil is shorted. Do you have a meter to test voltage with?


I do have a voltmeter, but I'm not sure which contacts to test. Also, how do I tell if the coils are shorted?

Everything I've see is pointing tot he timer. You're saying it's not?

Thanks so much for the help. This is definitely an area I have no knowledge in.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:23:48 PM(UTC)
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No, it is not the timer. Unplug the dryer and release the clips in between the front and top panels and hinge the top panel up. You will see the element terminals in the upper RH corner of the machine, behind the drum. Let me know when you get that far, please.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:24:31 PM(UTC)
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No, it is not the timer. Unplug the dryer and release the clips in between the front and top panels and hinge the top panel up. You will see the element terminals in the upper RH corner of the machine, behind the drum. Let me know when you get that far, please.


I see those
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#6 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:27:39 PM(UTC)
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Okay, with the dryer unplugged, use your meter to test for continuity from each of those terminals to any metal surface on the dryer. Does the meter display change, indicating continuity?
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#7 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:37:00 PM(UTC)
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Okay, with the dryer unplugged, use your meter to test for continuity from each of those terminals to any metal surface on the dryer. Does the meter display change, indicating continuity?


So... the pic attached shows what I'm seeing. If I touch one of the terminals and an area of the dryer, it does beep. Does that mean it's grounded?
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#8 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:45:26 PM(UTC)
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Those are the wires to the thermostat, but they are connected to the heating element. So, yes, that heating element is grounded to the case, a ground that is completing the circuit for them to heat. So, you will need to replace that heating coil. There are two ways you can replace it. One comes as a complete assembly, the other comes as the coil only for a little less money. Both are available below for you to choose from. Also, you may want to perform some maintenance while you have it all disassembled. There is a great kit that contains everything to basically rebuild the machine. It will save you time and money to do it all at once! It is below.

Frigidaire 5304457724 Dryer Preventive Maintenance Kit - AppliancePartsPros.com

The heater options are below.

Frigidaire 5300622034 Electric Dryer Heating Element - AppliancePartsPros.com

Frigidaire 131553900 Dryer Heating Element Assembly - AppliancePartsPros.com


Very well done testing this!
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#9 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:48:15 PM(UTC)
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Those are the wires to the thermostat, but they are connected to the heating element. So, yes, that heating element is grounded to the case, a ground that is completing the circuit for them to heat. So, you will need to replace that heating coil. There are two ways you can replace it. One comes as a complete assembly, the other comes as the coil only for a little less money. Both are available below for you to choose from. Also, you may want to perform some maintenance while you have it all disassembled. There is a great kit that contains everything to basically rebuild the machine. It will save you time and money to do it all at once! It is below.

Frigidaire 5304457724 Dryer Preventive Maintenance Kit - AppliancePartsPros.com

The heater options are below.

Frigidaire 5300622034 Electric Dryer Heating Element - AppliancePartsPros.com

Frigidaire 131553900 Dryer Heating Element Assembly - AppliancePartsPros.com


Very well done testing this!


So glad you could help with this. I take it this kit includes the thermostats? I have noticed a drop in heating performance recently. Is this the cause of it?
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#10 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:52:33 PM(UTC)
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The kit includes the belt, idler, both front and rear bearings, drum seal and instructions. The loss of performance is related to the shorted element, the thermostats are good or bad and don't wear down, they just go bad. Replacing the heater and the maintenance kit should keep you going for many more years!
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