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E Jim K  
#21 Posted : Thursday, July 2, 2009 5:11:51 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gene Go to Quoted Post
Roy,

Assuming the "on-off" switch on the right side panel is "on", check if the plastic tube coming into the ice maker is frozen (remove the ice maker first). Replace the water inlet valve if there is frost.

Locate the water inlet valve on the back of the fridge. Switch the wires between the ice maker solenoid and the water dispenser solenoid. Depress the water release lever on the door and see if water will come to the ice maker.

If it would then the ice maker has to be replaced.

If it would not then the water inlet valve has to be replaced.

- The part number for the water inlet valve is AP3160649

- The part number for the ice maker is AP4318635

Gene.


Gene:

I am having the exact same problems as Roy. Following your advice above, water does come when the water release is pushed.

I have two questions:
1.) Where do I find the complete part number? I am not sure I have the same model as Roy...
2.) Do I really need to replace the entire ice maker? It seems only the solenoid would need replacement...

Thank you for all your input here...if you ever have a question about a STIHL power tool, please let me repay you with my expertise.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, July 2, 2009 6:49:05 PM(UTC)
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Type the model number into the Search box or post it on the forum and we will help you. It is better to open a new own thread and post as much information on the problem as possible.

Gene.
mike foley  
#23 Posted : Saturday, August 8, 2009 12:57:10 PM(UTC)
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I have a similar problem with a kenmore model 10656532400 as those posted above.

The icemaker does not make ice (obviously or I wouldn't be here).

The 8 fingers on the icemaker are pointed straight down instead of being flush with the flat plastic piece that funnels the ice into the hopper on the door.

I tested the dispenser solonoid and water path by jumpering the solonoid with 110v. It pumps water when 110v is applied and water dispenses out the hose in the freezer cieling indicating there are no obstructions or problems with the water line.

The water dispenser in the door also works normally indicating no problems with the water supply or filter mechanism.

When I open the door and push the flap down to clear the optical path for the ice sensor the LED on the unit is on steady. When the optical path is blocked the LED blinks twice then is off for approximately 1/2 second, then blinks twice, then off 1/2 second, blink twice, etc.

Some of the diagnosis advice on here says that the icemaker must be bad if the fingers are pointed to six o'clock instead of 3 o'clock for another icemaker model. Is that true of my icemaker as well?

The Icemaker model number is 260W - 115V- 60Hz, IM #S 106 626663 LR 5010 06/15/04 S2

I don't want to shotgun troubleshoot this thing, so I'm wondering how to test which part is bad, the optical sensor or the icemaker.

Thanks for any help,

Mike
Gene  
#24 Posted : Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:31:36 PM(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Sounds like the problem is a bad ice maker. You can check it by performing the following test:

Pull the ice maker out but do not unplug its wire harness. Remove the ice maker head cover and check for 120VAC between "N" & "L" test points. Make sure the test probes are 1/2" in.

If there is 120VAC then using an insulated piece of wire (14 GA), short points "T" & "H" to run the motor. Leave the jumper in for a half of a revolution and remove it. The water valve should be energized in the last half of the revolution.

If there is no 120 VAC then remove the ice maker and check for continuity the black wire in the ice maker harness.

Post the results.

Gene.
mike foley  
#25 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 3:02:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gene Go to Quoted Post
Hi Mike,

Sounds like the problem is a bad ice maker. You can check it by performing the following test:

Pull the ice maker out but do not unplug its wire harness. Remove the ice maker head cover and check for 120VAC between "N" & "L" test points. Make sure the test probes are 1/2" in.

Checked - no voltage present between test points. I verified that the icemaker was turned on and the optical sensor was not obstructed. I removed the gear drive and cover from the icemaker and checked that 110v was getting through the harness. It showed 108v from black to white at the termination of the harness. I put the gear drive and cover back on, still no voltage N-L

If there is 120VAC then using an insulated piece of wire (14 GA), short points "T" & "H" to run the motor. Leave the jumper in for a half of a revolution and remove it. The water valve should be energized in the last half of the revolution.

Tried this anyway, no movement from the motor

If there is no 120 VAC then remove the ice maker and check for continuity the black wire in the ice maker harness.

I tested continuity across the harness through the heating resistor in the ice tray, it was fluctuating from 1.5 to 2.5 ohms, probably due to my meter leads. Checked voltage through the harness, 110v black -white and black - green, as expected.

Post the results.

Gene.


Additionally, the icemake I've got looks nearly identical to the one shown for part number AP4318635. The only difference is the previously noted 185w vs. 260w power rating.

When I type my fridge model number into your parts search, I get a different icemaker that has a wire loop on it to determine the ice level in the ice hopper. This is obviously not the icemake I need as I've got the optical sensor in the wall of the freezer to determine ice level.

Is there a difference in operation from the 185w to the 260w unit?
Gene  
#26 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 1:06:09 PM(UTC)
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Mike,

What is the part number of the ice maker you bought?

There is no exact match for your model number in the APP site database. That's why you got a different ice maker. The correct APP part number for the ice maker you needed is Part number: AP3182733
Part number: AP3182733



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...Is there a difference in operation from the 185w to the 260w unit?...
I do not think so.


Gene.
mike foley  
#27 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2009 2:27:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gene Go to Quoted Post
Mike,

What is the part number of the ice maker you bought?

There is no exact match for your model number in the APP site database. That's why you got a different ice maker. The correct APP part number for the ice maker you needed is Part number: AP3182733
Part number: AP3182733



I do not think so.


Gene.


I didn't buy one yet, when I got the picture of the wrong unit I held off. Now that I've done the troubleshooting and you concur that's the problem I guess I'll be buying the one you posted the link to. I'll post back and let you know how it turns out when it shows up.
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#28 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 10:01:45 AM(UTC)
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Hello there Gene,
Your posts have been most helpfull already, Thank you!
This "ice maker not working" is on a Kitchenaid Superba Model KSRG25FKSS16 - My trouble shooting has determined that the optical ice sensor is working fine. By jumping L to V the water valve did open and water was flowing. The big questions begin when jumping T to H there is no motor movement and when looking for 120 V between N and L there was no current shown? There is power between white and black in the wiring harness coming out of the freezer wall.
Suggestions or part #'s please?
Thanks again,
Gary
Gene  
#29 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 1:26:10 PM(UTC)
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Gary,

Sounds like the ice maker itself is the culprit.

-The ice maker Part number: AP3182733
gboydfishin  
#30 Posted : Monday, July 12, 2010 1:53:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gene Go to Quoted Post
Gary,

Sounds like the ice maker itself is the culprit.

-The ice maker Part number: AP3182733



Thank you sir,
Part is ordered and I will let you know!
Gary
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