Customer Support 7 days a week

Welcome Guest! You can not login or register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
jwakron  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:41:04 AM(UTC)
jwakron

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/7/2015(UTC)
Posts: 4

The left two burners on my Samsung induction range quit working and display the "no pan present" error. When I dissasembled the range I found a burnt trace on the front PC board, Pcb induc PART NUMBER: RAS-ICTOP-04. The burnt trace was under the rear fuse holder on the left side of the board. Picture attached. No fuse is present in either fuse holder and it appears that the fuses have been replaced with a fusible trace under the fuse holders. Anyway, that is the trace that was burned through on the board. I replaced the board with a new one, and when the range was powered up, I heard a loud pop and tripped the range circuit breaker. After disassembly again, the same PC board trace is burnt through. The right two burners and oven still work. Do you have any idea what my problem is? Is one of the inverter boards shorted (no damage evident on either board) or is one of the "burner" elements failed. I hate to just keep throwing parts at the problem. Thanks
File Attachment(s):
2015-01-07 13.26.32.jpg (291kb) downloaded 492 time(s).
Sponsor
See inside of your appliance - diagrams and part photos for virtually every model.

powered by AppliancePartsPros.com
 
TheDoctorsCompanion  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 7, 2015 5:39:33 PM(UTC)
TheDoctorsCompanion

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/6/2015(UTC)
Posts: 9

I wish I could give you specific help, but what does the other board for the other burners look like in that area? Specifically, does the other board have fuses in the fuse holders? Long shot I know.

Do you suppose the rest of the board is still good, except for the burnt out fusible traces? If so I wonder what would happen if you put properly rated fuses in those empty holders?
jwakron  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 7, 2015 8:07:30 PM(UTC)
jwakron

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/7/2015(UTC)
Posts: 4

This single board ( I think) controls the two inverter boards, each of which power two burners. If you look further down the picture below the pencil position, you will see another fuse holder and an intact fusible trace in the board under the fuse location. I'm assuming that is supplying current/control signals to the still working 2 right side burners. As far as your suggestion to put a fuse in the holder, I did do that while awaiting delivery of the replacement board and was rewarded with another loud pop and tripping of the breaker when the burner was powered on. Stupidly, I went ahead and installed the replacement board in hopes that the "short" was onboard the board I replaced but it failed the same as the original board. It seems that the "short" must be on the downstream inverter board or possibly in one of the burner assemblies itself? I think it is possible that the two failed boards could possibly still be good with a proper fuse in place. Any idea what size fuse? The 10 amp I used vaporized completely in the first attempt, and it was too big I think based on the loud pop and resulting soot residue.
TheDoctorsCompanion  
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 8, 2015 6:53:19 AM(UTC)
TheDoctorsCompanion

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/6/2015(UTC)
Posts: 9

Yes, I saw that other fuse holder. I think your assumption about the other fusible link controlling the operational two burners is probably correct.

Sorry, I can't help you with determining the fuse size. Perhaps the circuit board has the amperage rating printed on it near the fusible trace?

Sounds like you have a "power always on full throttle" condition. Usually that indicates a bad controller, but you've got two burners affected by the problem. I think your theory that the problem is downstream from the PC board is a good one.

I wish I could help you more. I'm just a new member that saw your post and was intrigued by it. Perhaps call Samsung and ask to escalate the issue to a technician. Avoid the customer sales rep that reads off a script.
jwakron  
#5 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 1:55:35 PM(UTC)
jwakron

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/7/2015(UTC)
Posts: 4

Follow-up to my original post. After burning up the fusible trace on the second primary PC board, I replaced the left side Inverter board which drives the left two burners. I put a 2 amp fuse in the fuse holder over the burnt trace in the primary board and everything worked at half power, but failed when I turned the power to the burner up. I had burnt the 2 amp fuse, so replaced it with a 10 amp fuse. All seems to be working now.
nickgailloux  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:06:07 PM(UTC)
nickgailloux

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/3/2015(UTC)
Posts: 1

Hey jwakron,

I am having the exact same issue as you, the two left burners are not working. This happened after hearing a very loud pop while cooking. I have not taken it apart yet but I will be this weekend.

From reading your posts, if I understand correctly, I can simply put a 10amp fuse in the fuse holder and it should work? I will not need to replace the board?
jwakron  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:33:23 PM(UTC)
jwakron

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/7/2015(UTC)
Posts: 4

No, a fuse is not all that was required in my case. the fusible trace in the board failed because it was a direct short in the inverter board downstream from the controller board. I was able to reuse the controller board by putting a fuse in the fuse holders (turned out that I needed a 15 amp), but the inverter board on the left side needed to be replaced to keep from blowing the fuse again. about $150 from Sears.
B1xzax29  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 13, 2018 10:32:44 AM(UTC)
B1xzax29

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/13/2018(UTC)
Posts: 3

Originally Posted by: jwakron Go to Quoted Post
Follow-up to my original post. After burning up the fusible trace on the second primary PC board, I replaced the left side Inverter board which drives the left two burners. I put a 2 amp fuse in the fuse holder over the burnt trace in the primary board and everything worked at half power, but failed when I turned the power to the burner up. I had burnt the 2 amp fuse, so replaced it with a 10 amp fuse. All seems to be working now.


I would like to know where did you buy the suitable 10 amp fuse for Samsung cook top?

Thanks a lot
Xueqing Wang
B1xzax29  
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:39:38 PM(UTC)
B1xzax29

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/13/2018(UTC)
Posts: 3

My cook top had same problem, it was fixed as the instruction of the first poster. The fuse size is 15 amp. thanks a lot to the first poster
B1xzax29  
#10 Posted : Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:48:26 PM(UTC)
B1xzax29

Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 2/13/2018(UTC)
Posts: 3

My cook top had same problem, it was fixed as the instruction of the first poster. the fuses was bought from Sayal Electronics in Toronto, 15A 250V 6*32mm, 65nm-150h. thanks a lot to the first poster
Users browsing this topic
Guest (5)
Forum Jump  
You can post new topics in this forum.
You can reply to topics in this forum.
You can delete your posts in this forum.
You can edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You can vote in polls in this forum.