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fasteddie11  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:00:31 AM(UTC)
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All of a sudden my range as well as my dryer elements stopped working. There is still power to both appliances but no heat. They are on the same double post breaker and have never in over 20 years had this problem I've tried replacing the breaker with no change. What could the problem be? I am stumped.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:13:55 AM(UTC)
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All of a sudden my range as well as my dryer elements stopped working. There is still power to both appliances but no heat. They are on the same double post breaker and have never in over 20 years had this problem I've tried replacing the breaker with no change. What could the problem be? I am stumped.


Fasteddie,

Are you sure you have 220 to 240 VAC, at the terminal block(the two outside terminals) of both the dryer and range.
Both units will have displays and will program and work with 120 VAC , but half the heat circuit is on the L2 power supply, and the unit(s) won't heat.

If you're drawing 50 to 60 amps on a single double breaker circuit, I would not be surprised to find your L2 leg(wiring) as failed in the conduit, but you need to start at both terminal blocks and work your way back to the power /breaker panel.

Good Luck,
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:29:50 AM(UTC)
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Hey Joe: Thanks so much for your response. I wish I could say I understood everything you said but I'm afraid I don't.:o I've usually handled minor electrical repairs, as in replacing elements, rewiring etc. It sounds to me your trying to say that my wiring could be fried somewhere from the plug to the box. I guess I was hoping for an easier solution, it seems like it could be something simple but probably not. As I have no experiance with major electrical household wiring ,I guess it's down to calling an electrician. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Eddie
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:00:34 PM(UTC)
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Hey Joe: Thanks so much for your response. I wish I could say I understood everything you said but I'm afraid I don't.:o I've usually handled minor electrical repairs, as in replacing elements, rewiring etc. It sounds to me your trying to say that my wiring could be fried somewhere from the plug to the box. I guess I was hoping for an easier solution, it seems like it could be something simple but probably not. As I have no experiance with major electrical household wiring ,I guess it's down to calling an electrician. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Eddie


Eddie,

Apparently you don't have access to a multi meter, They do come in handy, and can be used for household checks, repairs and projects.

Part number: AP3873826
Part number: AP3873826


Yes, at this point, I'm guessing you have a power supply problem, the likelihood of both units burning out the elements at the same time, would be a big coincidence, especially with your description.

I have a feeling when the electrician arrives, he's going to need to bring you up to code(Run two new separate circuits,one to the range and one to the dryer). Actually it's best and safer, that way.

Good Luck,

:) :) :)
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:23:55 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Joe: Yes I do have a multimeter, I'm just a little unsure of where to utilize it safely. Power on, Power off, I'm just not sure of how to go about it. I don't want to stick it in the wrong slot, if you know what I mean. I agree that them both going at the same time has me stumped as the main wire go's to a junction box and then one wire goes to the stove and one goes to the dryer. Could the problem be there? It's pretty stuffed with wiring and electrical tape in there. Eddie
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:36:16 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Joe: Yes I do have a multimeter, I'm just a little unsure of where to utilize it safely. Power on, Power off, I'm just not sure of how to go about it. I don't want to stick it in the wrong slot, if you know what I mean. I agree that them both going at the same time has me stumped as the main wire go's to a junction box and then one wire goes to the stove and one goes to the dryer. Could the problem be there? It's pretty stuffed with wiring and electrical tape in there. Eddie


Eddie,

That sounds ugly and dangerous,

Yes your problem could be in the junction box, and attempting to "clean" up the mess may help you get up and going, but ... It's Dangerous based on your description.

Here's a "how to" excerpt from our Repair Forum that will give you better idea of how to use a multi meter safely and properly.

http://forum.appliancepartspros...continuity-ohmmeter.html

Keep it up and going, you'll be alright.

:) :) :)
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:44:29 PM(UTC)
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Thanks again Joe: Ithought of turning off the power and at least check out the connections in the junction box as it did not look to proffesinal to me. But as I mentioned there have been no probs for over 20 years. Any suggestions? Eddie
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:58:59 PM(UTC)
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Thanks again Joe: Ithought of turning off the power and at least check out the connections in the junction box as it did not look to proffesinal to me. But as I mentioned there have been no probs for over 20 years. Any suggestions? Eddie


Yes, go ahead and turn off the power at the breakers, and get some properly sized and rated "wire nuts" from a hardware store, and check the wires repair/ replace, the connections with the wire nuts, and go from there.


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#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:49:51 PM(UTC)
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Good advice: It should have been done in the first place. I'm still a little apprehensive. I think I know a burnt connection. Eddie
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:17:23 AM(UTC)
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Good advice: It should have been done in the first place. I'm still a little apprehensive. I think I know a burnt connection. Eddie



Eddie,

Go for it, Be careful, turn off the power, and you'll do fine. It might keep you going , but you're going to need a re wire, sooner or later.

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