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GeorgeG  
#1 Posted : Sunday, February 10, 2008 5:52:11 PM(UTC)
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I am rebuilding this Kenmore/Whirlpool washer. So much grease and oil leaked around the drive system that I need help on which parts to lubricate/grease and which parts must stay dry (or be cleaned of oil/replaced) on reassembly. In particular, the:

Tub support and brake, seals and bearings
Gearcase shaft/spline
Clutch
Brake and drive tub
Agitator parts

Also, where is the gasket sealer used?

Thanks,

George
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Gene  
#2 Posted : Monday, February 11, 2008 1:40:35 PM(UTC)
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No one of the part on your list has to be lubricated.

The gear case should have a special oil inside.

The gasket sealer used to seal the gear case cover to prevent the oil leak.

Gene.
GeorgeG  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:19:22 AM(UTC)
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Gene

Thank you for your reply.

1) Does the replacement gearcase come filled with oil or do I need to fill it?

2) So there is no lubrication between the gearcase shaft and the inside of the brake and drive tube or the brake and drive tube and the inside of the tub support/brake assembly? Do I need to at least lubricate the seals in the tub support tube with soap or something for assembly? There was so much grease/oil in these assemblies upon removal, was that all gearcase leakage?

3) What is the lubricant in the parts list labeled with: Lubricant - "Use only in brake shoe assembly on roller pin"?

Thanks for your help.

George
abbie  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:16:57 PM(UTC)
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This sounds like there is more problems,Was there oil under the gear case?If so what color was the oil?Honey color?or dark brown/black?IF Dark there could more problems.Water could be getting into the gear case from up top at the spin tube.
GeorgeG  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:29:02 PM(UTC)
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Yes there was oil under the gearcase and above in the brakes/tubes. I am replacing most of the drivetrain including the gearcase with new parts. I need to make sure that I lube all the right stuff and keep the other stuff clean and dry. What needs to be lubricated (and with what) and what needs to stay dry - from motor to agitator cap, including all of the tubes, seals, bearings, brake, clutch, etc?

Does the new gearcase come filled?

Thanks,

George
abbie  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:05:56 PM(UTC)
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Replacing both spin tube and gearcase,myself I would use about 1to2 ounces of turbine oil in the shafts main section where the spin tube lies.In this section theres the main bearings and seals, pour the turbine oil down there.Normally, no grease is required for the spin tube or gearcase post,but you can put a little oil on the spin tube shaft and gearcase post to make it easier to slide them up into place....GOOD LUCK
GeorgeG  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:54:16 PM(UTC)
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Sounds like the conservative approach is no lubricant on any drivetrain component from the water pump to the agitator cap and the new gearcase is already filled.

Thanks,

George
GeorgeG  
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:13:15 AM(UTC)
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Started the rebuild and one more question. The tub support/brake tube assembly was 90% pre-assembled with all of the bearings and seals pre-greased. The very top seal came in a seperate bag and is of course dry. After pressing this seal into the top of the tube, should it also be greased and if so with what, or left dry?

Thanks,

George
abbie  
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:14:29 AM(UTC)
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George No Grease Is Needed.this Seal Is A Water Seal,as I Said When This Seal Is Bad The Water Will Run Down The Gearcase Post And Get Into The Gearcase..
GeorgeG  
#10 Posted : Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:16:51 PM(UTC)
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Abbie

Thats what I was looking for. The top seal is a water seal not a grease seal so no greese needed.

Thanks,

George
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