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Machine washes but stops at spin cycle, won't drain or spin...already replaced lid switch so what else could it be?
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Sounds like a timer problem, Part number: AP3084481
but before you replace it lets get some more info. 1. Does this happen in all cycles? 2. If you open the lid for a few seconds and put it back down does it start up? 3. If you manually move the timer to spin, will it start? 4. Does it happen on the drain spin after the wash and after the rinse cycles? 5. Have you check the drain hoses and pump for any obstruction?
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First of all thank you so much for your reply!! My washing machine is a whirlpool, model # LSR6332KQ0.....I sure hope you remember the questions you ask me:confused: ....Answers to your question....1. Yes 2. No, lid switch has already been replaced 3. No 4. Yes, both, after wash & rince cycle 5. Yes. All clear
If you need any more info., please ask, I really need help...I cant afford a repairman right now!! I think I can fix it :rolleyes:...if I had someone coaching/helping me through it (I hope)!!!
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Ok, good
One more thing you might want to do is to take off the cabinet, and take off the pump and motor, but leave the motor connected. Then put the washer on spin and see if the motor turns.
What we are trying to do here is be as certain as possible about replacing the timer. If the motor does not turn, it is not getting current and I am going to say go ahead and replace the timer. A timer diagnosis is usually done by elimination, that is, we do not know directly what the problem is, but based on what you have reported it is the best bet. Also, this timer is not too expensive so I think it is worth taking a chance on it.
If the motor does turn then your problem is in the pump or the transmission/brakes.
Let us know what you find out, and if you do replace the timer let us know how it turns out.
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Originally Posted by: sidfink43  Ok, good
One more thing you might want to do is to take off the cabinet, and take off the pump and motor, but leave the motor connected. Then put the washer on spin and see if the motor turns.
What we are trying to do here is be as certain as possible about replacing the timer. If the motor does not turn, it is not getting current and I am going to say go ahead and replace the timer. A timer diagnosis is usually done by elimination, that is, we do not know directly what the problem is, but based on what you have reported it is the best bet. Also, this timer is not too expensive so I think it is worth taking a chance on it.
If the motor does turn then your problem is in the pump or the transmission/brakes.
Let us know what you find out, and if you do replace the timer let us know how it turns out. Sorry, Im just now getting around to do what you ask( I work 12 hour shift,not much time to work on it):o .......OK, pump is off...moter is off...on spin cycle, moter does turn!!!:confused: So whats next? And again, :) thank you sooo much for your help & patients!!
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Ok, what you are saying is that with the washer altogether the washer will not operate in spin mode, but if you take the motor off the transmission and leave it hooked up and turn the timer to spin, the motor will spin.
If this is the case then you need to put it back together, except leave the cabinet off and by pass the lid switch. Then move the timer to spin and see what happens. One of three things must be happening.
1. The motor is turning and the pump is turning, but the basket does not spin.
2. The motor is turning but neither the pump nor the basket are turning.
3. The motor is not turning.
If the motor is not turning, start a wash cycle. I assume the machine fills and agitates ok. When it stops, raise the lid for 5 seconds, let it down and see if the motor starts.
Let us know what you find out. Sorry to keep putting you through this but your symptons are somewhat contradictory. If we were present we could probably diagnose things pretty quickly, but from afar it is much more difficult and time consuming.
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Originally Posted by: sidfink43 Ok, what you are saying is that with the washer altogether the washer will not operate in spin mode, but if you take the motor off the transmission and leave it hooked up and turn the timer to spin, the motor will spin.
If this is the case then you need to put it back together, except leave the cabinet off and by pass the lid switch. Then move the timer to spin and see what happens. One of three things must be happening.
1. The motor is turning and the pump is turning, but the basket does not spin.
2. The motor is turning but neither the pump nor the basket are turning.
3. The motor is not turning.
If the motor is not turning, start a wash cycle. I assume the machine fills and agitates ok. When it stops, raise the lid for 5 seconds, let it down and see if the motor starts.
Let us know what you find out. Sorry to keep putting you through this but your symptons are somewhat contradictory. If we were present we could probably diagnose things pretty quickly, but from afar it is much more difficult and time consuming. Thats O.K.,;) a woman's got to do what a woman's got to do, even if it takes a while to diagnose, I know you will help me do it!!:) O.K., Now Im confussed:confused: ...I put the machine back together like you said , left cabinet off and bypassed lid switch and movied timer to spin and everything worked:eek: ....The moter turned and the basket turned but not sure about pump turning!! I'm assuming if, both basket and moter are turning, then the pump should be turning,:confused: right!?!? If not, how would I know it the pump is turning?? Oh, one more qustion...if I fill the machine with water, start wash cycle, dont the cabinet and ererything else need to be put back together?? It was my understanding that your not suppose to run the machine with the cabinet off!! O.K.,now whats next??:rolleyes:
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Well, for normal purposes everything has to be put back together, but for diagnosis purposes we operate these machines with the cabinet off and the lid switch by passed. It enables us to see what is going on, see if there are any leaks, listen better to the machine and so forth. Otherwise you are correct, do not operate the machine with the cabinet off and when you are doing the cabinet off operation make sure no one else, particularly children, are around.
If the tub is spinning then the pump is operating since it runs off the same shaft.
Now what I think you need to do is to put the machine through a full cycle (with the cabinet off and the lid switch by-passed so that will not stop it). If it stops, wait for a while. If it does not start up unplug it for about 10 seconds and then plug it back in and see what happens.
Either way if it stops and the time will not advance I thinkwe are back to replacing the time.
Well, let us know how it goes.
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Originally Posted by: sidfink43 Well, for normal purposes everything has to be put back together, but for diagnosis purposes we operate these machines with the cabinet off and the lid switch by passed. It enables us to see what is going on, see if there are any leaks, listen better to the machine and so forth. Otherwise you are correct, do not operate the machine with the cabinet off and when you are doing the cabinet off operation make sure no one else, particularly children, are around.
If the tub is spinning then the pump is operating since it runs off the same shaft.
Now what I think you need to do is to put the machine through a full cycle (with the cabinet off and the lid switch by-passed so that will not stop it). If it stops, wait for a while. If it does not start up unplug it for about 10 seconds and then plug it back in and see what happens.
Either way if it stops and the time will not advance I thinkwe are back to replacing the time.
Well, let us know how it goes. Well, I put the crazy machine back together, filled it up, it washed, it drained, it spun out and started filling up to rinse:eek:....Now...what the heck is going on??:confused: Is it possible, that the motor or the pump could have froze up? And is it possible, that this "mystery" problem could happen again? I have washed 2 loads of clothes:Dwith no problem at all!!!:) I want to thank you for sticking in there with me, I couldn't have done it without you, :o Your my Hero!!!:) I sure hope I can call on you again if ever I need your assistance!!!;) Thank You so Kindly, Tammy Smith
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I am surprised, nobody mentioned the clutch. Put a heavy load in the washer and see if it will spin. If the motor runs in spin, but no spin, you have a slipping clutch, particularily if it will spin with nothing in the spin basket. If so, you will need to pull the tanny and replace the clutch.
Another possability is a clog in the pump that just flushed out.
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