Wrinkle Guare and Buzzer not working

My end of cycle buzzer is not working and I also noticed my wrinkle guard cycle is not working.

I know the buzzer works because I unhooked it and wired it direct to an extension cord, when plugged into the electric it will buzz.

Could this be a defective timer?

Everything else on the dryer works good, timed cycles and auto dry cycles all work.
Just the wrinkle guard cycle and the end of cycle buzzer is not working. :confused:

Yes, sounds like a faulty timer.

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Eric

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Eric,[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Before I order the timer is there any other component the wrinkle guard cycle and the end of cycle buzzer share?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]I am pretty sure it is the timer because when it goes into the wrinkle guard cycle the timer will advance but it makes a rattling/ticking sound and will never tumble the dryer drum as it should every 5 minutes.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]If I open the door the timer will stop as long as the door is open but as soon as you close the door the timer will start the rattling/ticking sound again.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]If I remember correctly once the door is open the timer should stop in any cycle until the start button is pressed again.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Calibri]Am I correct in that thinking?[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Thanks Steve[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

No, timer should continue to run when door is closed regardless if drive motor is running or not. If ordered from APP, timer may be returned if it does not fix the problem.

Eric

Well the new timer did not help.

Could it be the control board?

The end of cycle buzzer is not sounding at the end of the cycle and the wrinkle guard cycle is not tumbling every so ofter as it should.(not tumbling at all in the wrinkle guard cycle)

What else would cause the buzzer to not buzz at the end of the cycle and the wrinkle guard cycle not work? :confused:

The only function of the control board is to advance the timer during auto dry cycle based on feedback from the moisture sensor bars. I assume you do have the buzzer switch turned on? It’s part of the start switch so that is a possibility as well as a possible faulty motor switch. Wrinkle guard is controlled by the timer and wrinkle guard switch if your dryer has one.

Eric

Eric,
Would the end of cycle buzzer and the wrinkle guard cycle be controlled by the same motor switch?
Maybe that may be my problem.

And yes the buzzer and wrinkle guard switches are both turner on.

Faulty motor switch would not cause both problems. Check continuity on the wrinkle guard switch and the start switch buzzer control contacts.

Eric

I will check them right now and let you know.
Seems strange they would both be bad though.

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Eric,[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]I do have continuity on the wrinkle guard switch.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Calibri] But what terminals on the start switch do I use to check it for the buzzer? [/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Also what triggers the motor to start in the wrinkle guard cycle?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Eric,[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]I do have continuity on the wrinkle guard switch.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Calibri] But what terminals on the start switch do I use to check it for the buzzer? [/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Also what triggers the motor to start in the wrinkle guard cycle?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]If it is the timer I just replaced the timer and the wrinkle guard is still not working.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

There should be either a tan or black wire from the buzzer to the start switch. Disconnect that wire from start switch and check continuity between that terminal on switch and the terminal that the pink/black wire connects to. It is the timer that turns the motor on/off during wrinkle guard.

Eric

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Eric,[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]I do have continuity between the black wire and the pink/black terminal.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]I rechecked the buzzer by wiring it to an extension cord and plugging it into electric and it buzzes.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]But once hooked into the dryer it will not buzz at the end of the cycle and the wrinkle guard cycle is still not working.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Calibri]Is there anything else the wrinkle guard cycle and the buzzer has in common? :confused: [/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]I already installed a new timer.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

Unplug the black wire from the start switch. Stick a piece of wire into the quick disconnect terminal. Start the dryer. Holding only the insulated portion of the black wire, touch the wire to one of the terminals on the start switch that the blue wires are connected to. The buzzer should sound. If it doesn’t, then looks like the motor switch has defective contact or there is a problem with the other black wire from the buzzer to the motor wiring harness connector.

You do realize that wrinkle guard is an extension of the auto dry cycle. The dryer must be running as timer goes into wrinkle guard. If you open the door at end of auto cycle before it goes into wrinkle guard, the motor won’t start by itself in wrinkle guard. In wrinkle guard the dryer should come on for 15-30 seconds every 5 minutes. If door is opened, start relay will open and you would have to press start switch again to get it started but timer would have to be in correct position for this to work. Is timer advancing in wrinkle guard even though drum drive motor is not running? It should be.

Eric

[COLOR=#333333]Eric,[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]I will try the test for the buzzer tomorrow and let you know.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]Yes I do know that wrinkle guard is only an extension of the auto dry cycle and I never opened the door just to see if it was working and it is not working. (Not tumbling every 5 minutes like it should, not tumbling at all)[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]Yes the timer is advancing in the wrinkle guard cycle but it seems to make a rattling sound just like the old timer did. [/COLOR]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Eric,[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]I did the below test for the buzzer and the buzzer will buzz.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]But it buzzes with the buzzer switch set to the on or off position with this test.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]So what does this tell us and does that narrow my problem down?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=4][COLOR=#000000]Test preformed[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[COLOR=black]Unplug the black wire from the start switch. Stick a piece of wire into the quick disconnect terminal. Start the dryer. Holding only the insulated portion of the black wire, touch the wire to one of the terminals on the start switch that the blue wires are connected to. The buzzer should sound. If it doesn’t, then looks like the motor switch has defective contact or there is a problem with the other black wire from the buzzer to the motor wiring harness connector.[/COLOR]

While timer is advancing in wrinkle guard, press the start button. Start relay should engage and stay engaged. Motor should start within 5 minutes. If not, it sure sounds like a bad timer. You should have 120vac between timer T terminal and start switch blue wires (both of them). If so but motor never starts during wrinkle guard cycle, then the timer is bad. Timer should connect T to W when it’s time for motor to run in wrinkle guard.

As for the buzzer test, it tells me that the motor switch is ok and again points to a timer problem. If your at all familiar with reading the wiring diagram, I can try to explain how it should work but if it’s just greek to you, probably a waste of time.

Eric

[COLOR=#333333]Eric,[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]Could I test this by touching a jumper wire from terminal T to W while the timer is in the wrinkle guard cycle?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]Should the motor start in the wrinkle guard mode by doing this test?[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#333333] [/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]Also what do my results from the buzzer test tell us?[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#333333]Thanks Steve[/COLOR]

[quote=sea157;861801][COLOR=#333333]Eric,[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]Could I test this by touching a jumper wire from terminal T to W while the timer is in the wrinkle guard cycle?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333]Should the motor start in the wrinkle guard mode by doing this test?[/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][/COLOR][/quote]

Yes to both. As for the buzzer test, it tells me that the motor switch is ok and again points to a timer problem. If your at all familiar with reading the wiring diagram, I can try to explain how it should work but if it’s just greek to you, probably a waste of time.

Eric

Eric,
I will try touching a jumper wire from T to W and let you know what happens.

Maybe I bought another defective timer. :eek: