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Forgot to say: I hear no noise, but a few clicks I interpret as attempts at motion.
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Thank you Andy no comp required. I’m just an owner trying to help other owners. If you can’t rotate the wash basket CCW then it sounds like the Outer Tub bearings are seized. The wash basket should rotate CCW with ease in the CCW/spin direction. Do you hear any drive belt screech if you put the machine in Spin Only cycle?
My next step would be to remove the front cover and see if you can rotate the Clutch Pulley CCW the Spin direction. It will take a few turns of the Clutch Pulley to compress the Large Wrap spring in the Clutch Pulley. Once under tension the Wash Basket should begin to rotate CCW.
I would then rotate the Clutch Pulley CW the Wash/Agitate direction. You will be on the floor but you can have someone watch the tumblers with the washer lid up and they will see the tumblers rotate.
Let me know if you decide troubleshoot further. If the Outer Tub bearings are seized they can be bought for around $12 to $16 for a pair. Other parts, Tub Seal and Tranny O-Ring around $30 range. It’s a job and could be complicated by seized Spinner Support bolts. I’m an average DIY person with no special mechanical skill sets but I have replaced the Outer Tub bearing on my Series 10 machine (you have a series 11 machine which is the first two digits of your s/n). I have worked with several forum members on other DIY forums to rebuild the Outer Tub…………Dick
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Thanks Dick. I hear no screech in spin only - it just doesn't spin up. There are a couple of clicks, and the display shows ascending numbers to "48" then back to "00". I will try your suggestions and report back.
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The clutch pulley rotates with resistaance and groaning, and the tumblers rotate in both directions (CCW and CW) but the tub does not. There seems to be a slight "give" in the clutch pulley about once a rotation in the CCW direction.
To be clear: the clutch rotates CW (as seen from above) with resistance but no noise except for a "pop" about once each full turn. The clutch pulley rotates with lots of groaning in the CCW direction. The tumblers rotate in both cases but the tub does not.
Thanks Dick,
Andy
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Andy,
Just some quick feedback I'm at work right now so I have to keep it short.
It sounds like the Outer bearings if not seized are draging big time. I feel its time to drop the clutch pulley out and inspect. I believe you will find much rust a sign of a Tub Seal leak.
You have another machine up and running and if you want to go forward I feel it's time start a tear down to remove the outer tub.
You have the front cover off so remove the drive belt, just walk it off the Clutch Pulley. Once off the Wash Basket should rotate in both directions. I want to get a feel if the wash basket rotational resistance with the drive belt removed.
If its necessary to replace the Outer Tub bearings, (at this point of troubleshooting I believe you will) Tub Seal and Tranny O-ring the cost should be under $60. The Outer tub bearings are 6207-2RS you would need two. Google for best price. You can get the Tub Seal Tranny o-ring thru this site. I just want you to get a feel for cost. I can help you with part numbers.
Quick Google and I found the 6207-2RS bearings for under $6 each no shipping cost info........Dick
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Dick,
I took the pulley off this morning, but there is no difference in the wash tub state. It won't rotate, and the clutch pulley is still groaning.
Yes, I do have another washer working. I'd like to do a good overhaul of the machine. Do you have or know where I can find a list of the parts and part numbers?
Thanks,
Andy
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Parts;
Qty 1 Tub Seal AP4035323
Qty 1 O-ring seal AP4034167
Qty 2 6207-2RS Bearing 35x72x17 Sealed
There is a Maytag specialty (Locking Ring and Spanner wrench) to remove the 1.75” spinner nut. I impacted mine off. I have a ½” air impact tool and a quick run to Tractor Supply for a cheap 1.75” socket. I did use the Locking Nut/Spanner for reassembly but I feel you can lock down the Spinner Support and just use a 1.75” socket to torque down. I used no Torque Wrench just snug the hardware down.
You will need the impact tool to remove the Spinner Support bolts page 45 of the SM. I recommend when you get to that step you soak them good with PB Blaster Penetrating Catalyst. Even with that and Liquid Wrench for two days I sheared off one of the six Spinner Bolts. I ended up taking the Spinner Support to a local machine shop and had SS Heli-Coil inserts put in all six bolt holes.
Do you have the FAV6800A/FAV9800A Service Manual? There are some omissions (holes) in the manual like on Tumbler removal. The SM doesn’t call out the Torx driver size required to remove the retaining screw which is a Number 20 Torx driver.
As you start the tear down I’ll try to answer any questions with my limited experience and we have the knowledge of AR techs on this board. I have only done this once……That’s my disclaimer…..:)
Can you give me a quick e-mail. My e-mail is in my Vcard under my profile. I have some additional doc’s for you.
Going to the real job now. I work Tue thru Sat 1600 to 0030 East Coast. I will follow up with you. I think we should start a new post for this so we aren’t sending out post updates from this thread. Maybe call it FAV6800A/FAV9800A Outer Tub bearing replacement.
Dick
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dh1200s or anyone else please.
I am new here & I need help with my washer.
It started about 9 months ago, it would get to the final spin cycle and never balance out. Then by its self, it was working again. Now, it will not spin up to speed and get all the water out of the load. The pump does work (no staning water in the bottom) it goes through all the wash cycles no problem. When it gets to the final spin, no matter what it can never balace out.
Info on the washer;
Maytag Neptune (front loader)
model # MAH4000AWW
serial # 63724671ZB
style (Y) Y7909201
It has had all the factory upgrades and fixes done back in 2007. I was wondering if it is a sensor (I think there is 3 total, 2 push switches and 1 inertia type???) that is bad, or maybe the top springs and/or bottom struts are getting loose, or if the water balance ring is bad (it was replace too in 2007)??
I am mechanically inclined & can work on this with some instruction. I am on a near $0.00 budget to fix this. I can not afford to call someone out.
Thank you in advance,
Jay M.
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Jay,
I'm an owner of the FAV6800A TL so I can't help on your machine.
Start a new post with all your machine info and failure info and I'm sure someone will jump in to help you.
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Originally Posted by: dh1200s  Jay,
I'm an owner of the FAV6800A TL so I can't help on your machine.
Start a new post with all your machine info and failure info and I'm sure someone will jump in to help you. Thanks & I will do that!
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