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DanMaiullo  
#11 Posted : Saturday, October 23, 2010 7:22:01 AM(UTC)
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I took out the drum and ran the dryer for a full 80 minute cycle. No problems. I am thinking now that the lining is so worn, it is causing the drum to wobble and increase the friction. I am ordering new lining for the drum and the door. I'll let you know what happens.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, October 23, 2010 4:55:26 PM(UTC)
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Two things I think you ought to consider.

1. If your drum is not turning easily it may be producing a drag that ultimately causes the overload protection in the motor to kick in and shut things down.

2. The start switch. It is an inexpensive part, so try replacing it.

Hope this helps.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, October 23, 2010 6:40:00 PM(UTC)
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I put the drum back in, and now there is a lot less drag; I don't know why. Anyway, the dryer is running great now. No problems and the wife is thrilled. Just in case anyone needs to know, the old door switch tested out okay when checking resistance, so do the voltage test described earlier in this thread. You can jump the switch circuit like I did to be sure that the problem is in the switch. And, now that I'm an expert in taking the model apart and putting it back together, use a large hole saw (5-6") to take off the blower wheel from the back of the motor. I destroyed two of them before I figured that out. Thanks to everyone for their help!
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#14 Posted : Monday, November 1, 2010 6:08:56 AM(UTC)
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OK. I finally figured it out. The dryer would cut off after it got hot, but I could run it forever with the heat turned off. There is a seal on the back wall of the cabinet around the motor shaft. On the other side is the blower wheel. While the blower wheel is spinning it is blowing hot air through the worn seal right over the motor. Then the thermal switch on the motor turns the motor off. For a temporary fix I cut a nice big hole in the cabinet next to the motor to allow it to stay cool. Now it runs great! I'm still waiting for the replacement seal.
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#15 Posted : Monday, November 1, 2010 6:24:01 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for getting back to us. Now when others search for a similar problem they will see what actually worked instead of just suggestions about what could be the cause.

It is these weird ones that can drive a person crazy.
You did a great job finding the problem.
I would have thought that a blown seal would suck air in, not blow it back at the motor.

Again congrats.
THIS FORUM IS DEAD!!!!!!!
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#16 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:35:08 PM(UTC)
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Quote:
Now when others search for a similar problem they will see what actually worked instead of just suggestions about what could be the cause.


Holy moly...you nailed it. I DID have a problem with my dryer starting, and searched every single resource I could. Traced out out the wires, tested everything except the motor itself, which I still can't find any info on hooking up 120 direct to the motor to test, although it probably is because you can't...being the centrifugal switch disconnects the circuit to the motor starting circuit untill it stops.....er...I think. I had copied the schematic, and traced it through every single wire. But here is another tip for any one who is working on theirs to the extent of following wires through the black tape that the factory applies to keep the wiring harness neat.

There are two of those black taped areas that do something else. They HIDE two instances of a feed wire, connected to TWO wires that exit the tape. I played hell trying to find those two connections. Only because my Dad told me a thousand times...never assume anything...and LOOK LOOK LOOK.:D Anyway, this thread is the one that helped me isolate my real problem. Which is even weirder than this one.

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It is these weird ones that can drive a person crazy.
You betcha. Just to illustrate how weird things can cause more than one problem, check this out.

A few months back, I began questioning my bill from the water company as it started climbing, eventually adding about $40 per month. After proving they weren't averaging, and turning off all water using devices overnight, I checked the water meter at the the shutoff, and there is a little red arrow on the meter, that shows when water is being used. It was turning like crazy. I checked everything in the house. Nothing was leaking, and nothing was using water. Finally, my wife said she heard water running, but being old and half deaf, I couldn't hear it. Well, that was last week.

Come this week, all of sudden my dryer stopped working. I did all the preliminary stuff. Checked the breakers. Hmmm, they were snapped. Well, I figured that was the problem and reset them, but what caused it? So now, I checked the outlet, which now had voltage. I checked at the connection Lugs. Yup, had power. Still wouldn't start. Thats when I embarked on a complete nightmare.

I've fixed this dryer many times, as I can't afford a repairman, being on SS fixed income. So I dived right in. I opened the case, and checked the obvious. The door switch, the start switch, and started chasing the wires through the chassis to see if anything had become disconnected. Nope. That's when I did a search on various things and found myself here. I registered and posted a thread, which no one had responded to over a 2 day period. No wonder. DUH! Somehow I had inadvertently read the model number incorrectly. No wonder I couldn't find any info. Even Sears was baffled.:D BTW, my dryer is a Kenmore, which must be built by the same company that builds the authors dryer,as everything I've read matches my dryer. That tells me something else too. Hahaha!

Anyway, this morning, after doing every thing the last few people suggested on this thread, I decided to jump the door switch, disconnect the start switch, and see if I could start it by manually jumping the Start switch wires. Plugged it in...nothing. (sighs). Just to make sure the breaker hadn't blown again, I checked it. Hmmm, no. So I checked the voltage at the plug. No voltage. Hmmm. Checked it at the breaker. WTF. It had voltage. Both legs. Now what the heck is going on. This is when things started really getting weird.
A few weeks ago, we had a problem with a big rat. Got rid of that problem after he chewed through a cabinet full of food stored in plastic containers. He even chewed through the sides of a plastic enclosed crock pot. Unbelievable. So , I'm thinking...maybe this rat had somehow chewed through the plastic wrapped wires, and they shorted or something.
Well, this afternoon, I decided to look under the house through an access directly under my bathroom, which is adjacent to the laundry room, to see if I could trace the wires from the plug. LOW AND BEHOLD. As soon as I looked under there...holy moly...there's the leaking water!! Three different ones. I don't know who plumbed this house, but he should'nt be a plumber. What they used was plastic RV pipe. Terrible stuff. And now I see the result of freezing weather last winter. Three of these pipes had cracked. And guess where the wire from the breaker box was stapled. You got it. Right in the path of one of these leaks.

Well, at this point I still haven't crawled under the house as it really is a creepy nightmare under there and it's getting dark. Spiders galore. Wet ground. Pipes from hell. Wires..and god knows what else. Not to mention I'm claustrophobic.:D Anyway, I'm pretty sure what the problem is now. Just got to find where the wires shorted open. I'm also glad it didn't cause a fire. Will do tomorrow...and I ain't looking forward to it. :(:rolleyes::eek:

Well, sorry for the long winded reply, but like the previous poster said. Just trying to help people see it may not even be in the dryer. Crap happens and when it does, without knowing what other people have been through, well threads like this are a godsend. Thank you for supplying information, even though it may not solve my particular problem. It might have. And who knows...once I get the power thing resolved(not to mention the water thing)...it may STILL be in the dryer. Hahahahahaha!!

Rick
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#17 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:02:01 PM(UTC)
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For any one who wrestled through my last reply, posted 2 hours ago, I have an update. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with my last post.:(

So, did I mention I wouldn't have any luck at all if it weren't for BAD luck?:rolleyes::D

It's either that, or confirms my wife's belief we have ghosts.:p Well, ghosts notwithstanding, shortly after posting my reply above, I decided to go downstairs and look at some things related to my post. I opened the door to the laundry room and heard the washer running. What the..I stepped into the laundry room and...OMG...it's FLOODED!! My heart sunk. I screamed at my wife to come down ASAP, as I tiptoed through 2" of water, hoping not to get electrocuted, as I had laid down an extension cord on the floor, with a duplex box on the end to plug a light in that I was using in the dryer. ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRR!!!l Thank god I got it unplugged. But then the reality hit me.

Being 67, and already tired from a day of working on this thing, not to mention splitting a 1/2 cord of firewood, I simply couldn't fathom the odds of this happening at this moment. My wife came down and we proceeded to clean up a mess, tired or not, which was compounded by a ton of wet laundry, myriad assorted cardboard boxes full of ******** crap, and whatever else resides in my laundry room. Well, having gone through this one other time from a broken supply hose in the washer, I had the best tool for evacuating the water at hand. Right out side was my snow shovel. Works great. Just shovel the water out the door beside the washer. Only took 5 minutes, and wipe up with a few of the now damp towels in the laundry baskets.

But now I'm curious what happened. I look behind the washer at the end of the curved drain hose. Yup, still there. Hmmm, must be one of the hoses inside the washer. Ok, I start to move the washer to look at some things...OMG. There it was...plain as day. The drain hose was on the floor...the curved part still in the house drain recepticle. Geeezus. :confused:

Amongst the other enumerable DIY fixes I've done in the last ten years living here, was that drain hose. Just last month. My wife had noticed a little water on the floor, and after a short inspection, I discovered a crack right where the hose starts to make that "U" shaped bend at the end of the hose. Well, being a life long cheap skate/DIY'er, no problem. Just cut the hose off at the crack, find a short little tube from my hardware collection that fits the inside diameter, and a couple of auto hose clamps..VOILA! No big deal. Ha...that is until Murphy decides to raise his ugly little head.:D

Well, the makeshift tube connection was still in the curved part, and the hose clamps were still tight. In fact, from experience, I had even enlarged the ends of the connection pipe, by wrapping electricians tape, which made insertion difficult, but allowed an area between them to be clamped with auto clamps so there was NO way for this to come apart. Or so I thought. Well...reality doesn't give a crap. Either that...or maybe I should invite Ghost Hunters over for a night.:D

Well guys, I hope your evening went better than mine. All done for the day. Tomorrow the water/electrical problem. Hope it goes better than today. :rolleyes:

Rick

ps. I apologize to the author of this thread for a temporary hijack. I'll be back though to post my findings...ie..solve the dryer issue.
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