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Ed in Va.  
#1 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 5:25:39 AM(UTC)
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This unit is in my rental house. I Think it is a Roper, I'll find out shortly.

The freezer is not working, the fridge seems kinda cool, I just put a thermometer in Fridge to measure Temp.

Do you think the defrost timer may be stuck?

How should I troubleshoot this fridge?

Thanks in advance,
Ed in Va.
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denman  
#2 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 5:37:02 AM(UTC)
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[COLOR="Blue"]This unit is in my rental house. I Think it is a Roper, I'll find out shortly.[/COLOR]
The make and model number would be helpful.

[COLOR="Blue"]The freezer is not working, the fridge seems kinda cool, I just put a thermometer in Fridge to measure Temp.[/COLOR]
The fresh food side gets it's cold air from the freezer so if the freezer is warm the fresh food will also get warm.

[COLOR="Blue"]Do you think the defrost timer may be stuck?[/COLOR]
Depends what the freezer temperature is. If the freezer is above 32 degrees F then it will not be a defrost problem. At this temperature all the ice would melt off the defrost coils.
Remove the cover inside the freezer and check the coils.

How should I troubleshoot this fridge?
First check to see if the compressor is running.
Here are couple good sites with fridge repair/troubleshooting info.
http://www.applianceaid.com/frig.html
Refrigerator Repair Guide: How To Fix a Refrigerator - ACME HOW TO.com
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Ed in Va.  
#3 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 5:58:07 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: denman Go to Quoted Post
This unit is in my rental house. I Think it is a Roper, I'll find out shortly.
The make and model number would be helpful.

The freezer is not working, the fridge seems kinda cool, I just put a thermometer in Fridge to measure Temp.
The fresh food side gets it's cold air from the freezer so if the freezer is warm the fresh food will also get warm.

Do you think the defrost timer may be stuck?
Depends what the freezer temperature is. If the freezer is above 32 degrees F then it will not be a defrost problem. At this temperature all the ice would melt off the defrost coils.
Remove the cover inside the freezer and check the coils.

How should I troubleshoot this fridge?
First check to see if the compressor is running.
Here are couple good sites with fridge repair/troubleshooting info.
http://www.applianceaid.com/frig.html
Refrigerator Repair Guide: How To Fix a Refrigerator - ACME HOW TO.com


Thanks denman,

The temperature in the Fridge is 58 degrees, so looks like that would be reasonable, since the freezer is supplying cold air to the fridge.

I'll check out the sites you posted.

I'll check the compressor to see if it is running. The fan is running in the freezer.
Ed in Va.  
#4 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 7:06:31 AM(UTC)
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The compressor seems hot, I can keep my hand on it comfortably for about 5 seconds, before it feels too warm to the touch.

The freon lines are both warm. Both the return line to the compressor and the pressure line are the same warm temperature.

Seems like when I changed the temperature control from off to cold...I heard the compressor try to start then kicked off. ? Not certain, now unplugged fan to hear the compressor better.

Pulled the start capacitor off compressor, Ohm reads ...builds up resistance in one direction, then with leads reversed on the capacitor, builds up resistance in the opposite direction. this probably is correct. 10 micro farad/ 120 volt.

Ed
Ed in Va.  
#5 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 9:06:52 AM(UTC)
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The overload protector trips after about 12 seconds when the refrig is plugged in.

The capacitor test shows initial reading, then infinate on a digital ohm meter set at 20,000 ohms... and then with leads reversed, once again an initial reading then infinate ohms. Seems to be correct.

Is it possible the compressor is locked up? The compressor will heat up the overload protector within 12 seconds, while there is no indication of the compressor actually moving freon.

Any suggestions ?
Thanks Ed in Va.
Ed in Va.  
#6 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 4:50:05 PM(UTC)
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It really did not seem like the compressor was running.

It was definately getting hot, before the overload protector broke the circuit.

I didn't recognize the compressor relay when I saw it. I thought it was just some type of electrical connector to the compressor.

The actual compressor relay only measures probably 3/4 inch square, maybe 1 inch... of plastic housing type 3 spade connector component.

When kaput...these relays sound as if they could have B-B's rattling around inside of them.

New relay was $18.92 with tax.

Problemo solved.

Thanks Ed in Va.
denman  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:13:00 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for getting back to us. Now when others search for a similar problem they will see what actually worked instead of just suggestions about what could be the cause.
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Ed in Va.  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:30:11 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Denman for pointing me in the right direction.

Your quick response to the problem was very helpful.

Ed in Va.
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