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Ray Theon  
#1 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 11:57:50 AM(UTC)
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I've had the Amana ARGS7650E gas range for 13 years, and once had to replace the control module during warranty period. In the past few months the oven will turn itself off completely while baking, particularly at higher temps or when on for a longer time. The clock will reset, as if I pulled the plug. No F codes or anything -- just temporary loss of power, and then I can reset by pressing bake again. Is this a sign of another bad control module or a bad temperature sensor? The oven has not been keeping an accurate temp lately, when it does work. If it's a bad temperature sensor, can I (a repair novice) replace this myself? How?
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#2 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 12:43:46 PM(UTC)
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I've had the Amana ARGS7650E gas range for 13 years, and once had to replace the control module during warranty period. In the past few months the oven will turn itself off completely while baking, particularly at higher temps or when on for a longer time. The clock will reset, as if I pulled the plug. No F codes or anything -- just temporary loss of power, and then I can reset by pressing bake again. Is this a sign of another bad control module or a bad temperature sensor? The oven has not been keeping an accurate temp lately, when it does work. If it's a bad temperature sensor, can I (a repair novice) replace this myself? How?


There are 2 versions of that particular range.

One has a cooling fan and thermostat to turn the fan on.

The other has a fan and thermostat to turn on the fan, and it also has a hi limit thermostat(on the back of the oven cavity).

I think you have a weak hi limit themostat,or the cooling fan is not comming on.

The temp sensor could be failing/weak,but that doesn't shut the unit down.

Could you get us the "P" number, off the serial plate, so we can be more accurate in assisting you.

Appreciate it.
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Ray Theon  
#3 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 5:09:15 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for your reply! My oven has a cooling fan that seems to run properly when the oven is very hot and on for a long period... and it will continue to run even after the oven is off, but still hot. It may also have the high limit sensor you mentioned in the back of the oven cavity... I'm not sure about that. The "P" number is : P1130755N E and the Model is ARGS7650E, and it's gas.

Thanks!
Ray Theon
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#4 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 7:08:26 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ray Theon Go to Quoted Post
Thanks for your reply! My oven has a cooling fan that seems to run properly when the oven is very hot and on for a long period... and it will continue to run even after the oven is off, but still hot. It may also have the high limit sensor you mentioned in the back of the oven cavity... I'm not sure about that. The "P" number is : P1130755N E and the Model is ARGS7650E, and it's gas.

Thanks!
Ray Theon


Ray,

Thanks for the "p" number,

It made things a lot easier.

You actually have all 3 components, cooling fan, fan limit switch and a High limit switch.
(see attached)

Part number: AP4041090
Part number: AP4041090


The information you just gave me, tells me everything is working as designed, except the hi limit switch.

On your unit it is located on the top, left side of the oven cavity(under the cooktop).

It's still easier to access the thermostat from the back, instead of through the top of the unit.
(you may need a "stubby" screwdriver or nut driver).

Once you replace the limit switch, you'll be fine.

Good luck,
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mr_ton  
#5 Posted : Friday, October 22, 2010 9:51:47 AM(UTC)
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I have exactly the same problem with my Amana ACS3350AS. When the oven heats up the control panel just goes blank and the oven turns off. When the oven cools down again it resets the control panel and it works again, but this means I can only have my oven on for 5-10 minutes.

I see that the control panel for this model is discontinued, so I was hoping there was another way to fix this problem.

Thanks,
James
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#6 Posted : Friday, October 22, 2010 10:40:06 AM(UTC)
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I have exactly the same problem with my Amana ACS3350AS. When the oven heats up the control panel just goes blank and the oven turns off. When the oven cools down again it resets the control panel and it works again, but this means I can only have my oven on for 5-10 minutes.

I see that the control panel for this model is discontinued, so I was hoping there was another way to fix this problem.

Thanks,
James


James,

Have you done the checks that we reccomended on the previous posts ?

You have two limit switches under the cooktop, and a cooling fan, just like before (Ray).

Part number: AP4041090
Part number: AP4041090



Part number: AP4041226
Part number: AP4041226


You need to check and see which limit switch is open when the display goes blank. (or replace both).

You also need to make sure the cooling fan motor runs.

Good Luck,
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mr_ton  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 9, 2010 4:23:26 PM(UTC)
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OK, so I took the stove top off and turned the oven on full. I left it on for about an hour but it didn't turn itself off as normal. I could not hear a cooling fan and have not heard anything since, so I assume this is certainly broken. I checked the voltage across the 2 switches: the one that was further forward was 110V, the back one was 0V.

Do I just need to fix the fan or do the switches control the fan (do you know where I can find a wiring diagram)? I am guessing that because the top was off, the switches didn't get hot enough to trip. When I put the stove top back on it did turn itself off again as before (although it seemed to take longer that before).

Thanks,
James
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:57:38 AM(UTC)
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OK, so I took the stove top off and turned the oven on full. I left it on for about an hour but it didn't turn itself off as normal. I could not hear a cooling fan and have not heard anything since, so I assume this is certainly broken. I checked the voltage across the 2 switches: the one that was further forward was 110V, the back one was 0V.

Do I just need to fix the fan or do the switches control the fan (do you know where I can find a wiring diagram)? I am guessing that because the top was off, the switches didn't get hot enough to trip. When I put the stove top back on it did turn itself off again as before (although it seemed to take longer that before).

Thanks,
James



James,

The fan limit switch controls the power to the cooling fan.

The control limit switch,(oven limit), of course is power to the control.

They are both temperature sensitive,

The fan limit closes and sends voltage to the cooling fan, when the temperature reaches a certain temp.in the burner box area, to cool the controls.

The control limit opens when it is too hot and turns off power to the control board and things go blank and inoperative.

You could test the cooling fan by jumping out the fan limit and see if the fan runs at the proper speed.

Or attach 120 VAC directly to motor and check it's operation.

I used to replace both limits at the same time, as long as the fan checked OK.


I'm sending the tech sheet for your unit, and you should be able to handle it from there.

Good Luck,
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jkoelbel  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:14:17 AM(UTC)
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I have a similar problem with the Amana ACS3350AS. After being on for an hour or more the display sometimes quits and then the oven shuts down. I don't think there is any cooling fan for this model - is there some other reason it is getting too hot?
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:53:34 AM(UTC)
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I have a similar problem with the Amana ACS3350AS. After being on for an hour or more the display sometimes quits and then the oven shuts down. I don't think there is any cooling fan for this model - is there some other reason it is getting too hot?


J,

There is a cooling fan / blower on your unit,

Part number: AP4280271
Part number: AP4280271


It is located on the back of the range( you'll need to pull the range out and remove the back panel to access it.

I would not start there, I've replaced more limit switches, than fans, over the years.


Part number: AP4041090
Part number: AP4041090


Part number: AP4041226
Part number: AP4041226


As the previous posts stated, both limits are located under the cooktop, on the left side of the burner box.

I always replaced both, if one is weak, so is the other.

But, the fan limit switch is a open circuit when the control area/cooktop temperature is below 155 dgrs. at 155 dgrs the limit switch closes and turns on the fan.

The oven/control limit is a closed circuit until the area temperature reaches 240 dgrs. the the limit opens and the control shuts down.

Basically everything mentioned it the previous posts, applies to your unit, follow the same process and procedures, and you'll be up and running, trouble free.

I included the part numbers for your unit.

Good Luck.

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