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denman  
#11 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 2:48:10 AM(UTC)
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This is getting a tad complicated.
In other words I am getting a tad stumped.

Attached is a wiring diagram for a MDET336. it looks the same as your unit but includes a timer chart and a temperature control switch chart.

During timer dry timer contacts 1A supply power to the timer motor.

During auto it looks like contacts 4 (yellow to blue) along with the cycling thermostat does this.

The circuit would be L1 , yellow on the timer , contacts 4 (yellow to red) , temperature switch L1 to C , common (blue) on the cycling thermostat , when the heater shuts off normally open (orange) (now closed) on the cycling thermostat , then to the orange at the timer which is also connected to one side of the timer motor.

We know that the Neutral side of the timer motor circuit is OK as it runs in timed dry and this side is the same in both modes.

Since it seems to be heating OK, the L1 side of the timer circuit which also provides the L1 side of the line to the heater should also be OK.
All that is left if this is true is a wiring problem or a cycling thermostat problem but both of those have been checked.
So I am lost.

You could unplug the unit and the L1 (red) and C (blue) on the temperature switch and then measure across these switch contacts. Should be 0 ohms.

If open it means that not only is the switch bad but there must also be a problem with the heater.

The only other thing I can think of is that the cycling thermostat never gets activated.
This could be a bad thermostat or if the heater is not putting out enough heat or a seal in the system is letting in room air so the temperature at the blower is low and therefore the thermostat never activates so the timer never advances.

Perhaps try low heat in an auto cycle. This setting turns the thermostat's internal heater on which adds heat to it causing it to cycle more.
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samgarretson  
#12 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 12:36:57 PM(UTC)
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You were right, in auto regular dry at cool down on the dial it functions correctly. I hope this tells you something .
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#13 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 4:39:56 PM(UTC)
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It does confirm that the 1A contacts in the timer are OK but not much else.

Did you try it running at low heat seating?

Did the cycling thermostat still have the tag on the back giving it's temperatures?

You could run it while monitoring the exhaust temperature to see if the temperature is OK. It should cycle up and down about 25 degrees.

Right now all I can suggest is to try replacing the cycling thermostat.
Either it is not cycling at the correct temperature or it is never reaching the correct temperature for some reason.

One way to at least be sure it is something to do with the thermostat and not the rest of the unit would be to short the orange and purple wires on the thermostat.
I would unplug the unit and wrap a paper clip or other stiff wire between the two connectors.
Then plug it in and see if it now advances.
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samgarretson  
#14 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2014 6:29:39 PM(UTC)
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When you say "low heat" , do you mean the delicate setting on the temperature switch? I did do that, and I also ran it at the different settings on the dial itself.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:04:22 AM(UTC)
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[COLOR="Blue"]When you say "low heat" , do you mean the delicate setting on the temperature switch?[/COLOR]
Yes.

I assume that it still did not advance the timer.

This dryer is being one stubborn son of a gun.
I am saying son of a gun but thinking SOB.
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samgarretson  
#16 Posted : Saturday, April 26, 2014 4:31:02 AM(UTC)
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I just tried switching the temp. control to air fluff because I olny tested it on delicate and regular the last times in auto regular dry and it WILL advance on that setting. It wont advance in anything other than air fluff when in auto though. Now to shorting the switch . I tried it without dissconecting the supply wires and it melted the paper clip in half. So I figure I should have dont it with those dissconnected. So I made a wire jumper with connectors and tried it that way with the supply lines of course dissconected and it will NOT advance with the temp. switch on regular, delicate, or air fluff .
samgarretson  
#17 Posted : Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:29:47 AM(UTC)
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To test the fluctuation of the exhuast tempature wouldnt the cycling thermostat need to be functioning? If so, can it be doing so even though the timer isnt advancing ? What is the method used to monitor the tempature fluctuation?
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#18 Posted : Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:08:14 PM(UTC)
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[COLOR="Blue"]To test the fluctuation of the exhuast tempature wouldnt the cycling thermostat need to be functioning?[/COLOR]
If the temperature stays at a constant temperature then the cycling thermostat is probably not cycling.
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If so, can it be doing so even though the timer isnt advancing ?[/COLOR]
Yes

[COLOR="Blue"]What is the method used to monitor the tempature fluctuation?[/COLOR]
You could feel the temperature just with your hand wirh the unit disconnected from the vent system.
Or of you have a fairly fast responsive thermometer that should see ithe variation.
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samgarretson  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:05:10 PM(UTC)
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Well, I just replaced the cycling thermostat and still no luck. I tried to check the heat fluctuation with my hand but it was hard to tell for sure. The thermometer i have wouldnt go high enough either. I recently rewired the dryer recepticle and the problem seems to have started around that time as well. Is there a chance the wiring is wrong although everything else is functioning correctly?
samgarretson  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:32:08 PM(UTC)
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I just checked the recepticle and it is as it should be so nevermind that question. I guess theres not much else to do exept keep turning it off manually or get a new dryer. O-well, I tried and I truly do appreciate your assistance and expertice!
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