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chrisbanks00  
#21 Posted : Monday, February 23, 2009 6:10:19 PM(UTC)
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Now the stupid washer is overflowing on me. I started a new thread to discuss this.

On the brighter side, no shaking and no squealing from the brakes!
painternumero1  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:42:33 PM(UTC)
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Ok guys, here is the easiest and safest way to change the snubber, or, if you have to, replace the brakes releasing spring tension. In my case, it was a Norge. It would work on any washer similar to it.

Take one original screw out from the brake. Then match tread and size to a screw that is 3 inches long. Put the 3 inch screw in the original screw you took out and continue taking originals out and put the 3 inches in. Now you will have all original screws out, and all 3 inches in. You can back all the 3 inches out to release spring pressure. When you install the brake back, you have long screw to match the holes. Tighten all the 3 inch screws in, now take each 3 inch screw out one at a time and replace it with the original, and you are done.
DickL  
#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:43:01 PM(UTC)
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Hi All,

I replaced a badly worn snubber ring in a Maytag PAV2300AWW pretty much following the published procedures. However, I did remove the pulley which appears to have been a major mistake. Upon reassembly, the pulley wouldn't pass over the shaft far enough to reinstall the outer washer and E-ring lacking ~1/16" to do so. I set the inverted tub on a post to move the transmission shaft as far into the pulley as possible, but it helped very little. I'm not sure how to proceed. Have any of you talented :) readers run into this problem and how did you handle it?

Thanks for any comments
fairbank56  
#24 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:58:36 PM(UTC)
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Use a small screwdriver to get into the groove and pry down against the pulley to pull the shaft down far enough to get the clip started into the groove. Filing the tips at an angle on one side of the clip can also help if you still can't get the shaft down far enough.

Eric
DickL  
#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:17:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fairbank56 Go to Quoted Post
Use a small screwdriver to get into the groove and pry down against the pulley to pull the shaft down far enough to get the clip started into the groove. Filing the tips at an angle on one side of the clip can also help if you still can't get the shaft down far enough.

Eric


Thanks!

This sounds like a better "try first" alternative to what I did. I removed the offending material from the inside of the pulley hub until the E-ring would slip on. After assembly there was no decernible end play. However, the washer would wash ok and drain ok, but no spin. If there is a brake on the drum, it appears that it is not releasing. The machine sounds like it ought to be spinning, but in fact isn't.
New pulley and try again with your suggested technique?

Dick
fairbank56  
#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:01:10 PM(UTC)
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Yes, when the main pulley rotates CCW, the cam that you cut material from pushes up slightly on the pulley which pushes up on the thrust bearing and brake rotor, releasing the brake so the transmission and tub can spin.

Eric
DickL  
#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:22:24 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fairbank56 Go to Quoted Post
Yes, when the main pulley rotates CCW, the cam that you cut material from pushes up slightly on the pulley which pushes up on the thrust bearing and brake rotor, releasing the brake so the transmission and tub can spin.

Eric


Thanks again!

Actually the material that I removed was from the innermost portion of the pulley and not the cam. The "cam" is the white nylon insert with the splines to mate the shaft? I note that the pulley pocket for the cam has stops molded into it. Is the cam inserted into the wide gap or narrow gap? I quess with this I'm asking you to be a bit of a mind reader as to what I mean. :)

Dick
fairbank56  
#28 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:53:09 PM(UTC)
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Yes, the white part is the cam but the pulley also has a cam or ramp molded into it that mates with the ramp on the cam. In the pulley clockwise rotation direction, the ramps act as a stop so that the pulley forces the cam to rotate which mates with the agitator shaft to drive the transmission input shaft while the brake prevents the transmission housing from rotating. When the pulley rotates CCW, the ramps on the cam and inside the pulley ride up on each other forcing the pulley upwards releasing the brake so that the whole transmission housing can rotate. The cam is inserted into the wide gap in the pulley. The pulley kit will have instructions showing how it goes.

Whirlpool 12002213 Thrust Bearing Kit - AppliancePartsPros.com

Eric
DickL  
#29 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:20:43 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: fairbank56 Go to Quoted Post
Yes, the white part is the cam but the pulley also has a cam or ramp molded into it that mates with the ramp on the cam. In the pulley clockwise rotation direction, the ramps act as a stop so that the pulley forces the cam to rotate which mates with the agitator shaft to drive the transmission input shaft while the brake prevents the transmission housing from rotating. When the pulley rotates CCW, the ramps on the cam and inside the pulley ride up on each other forcing the pulley upwards releasing the brake so that the whole transmission housing can rotate. The cam is inserted into the wide gap in the pulley. The pulley kit will have instructions showing how it goes.

Whirlpool 12002213 Thrust Bearing Kit - AppliancePartsPros.com

Eric


Great info, thanks! I think I reassembled the cam into the pulley in such a way that there is essentially no ramp and the cam was stuck at the highest point, thus the cam/pulley covered the E-clip slot. I will reassemble the pair tomorrow to verify. Perhaps the proper additional washer under the pulley to make up for what I cut off will resolve the issue. I'm getting too old for this stuff. The washer in question is my daughter's and while I'm still around, I try to save her money where I can.
Thanks again!

Dick:)
DickL  
#30 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:02:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DickL Go to Quoted Post
Great info, thanks! I think I reassembled the cam into the pulley in such a way that there is essentially no ramp and the cam was stuck at the highest point, thus the cam/pulley covered the E-clip slot. I will reassemble the pair tomorrow to verify. Perhaps the proper additional washer under the pulley to make up for what I cut off will resolve the issue. I'm getting too old for this stuff. The washer in question is my daughter's and while I'm still around, I try to save her money where I can.
Thanks again!

Dick:)


I added back 3/32" of what I had removed from the pulley hub in the form of a steel washer and corrected the cam/pulley relationship and the machine is running.:) I believe that had I replaced the pulley, I would not have been able to get the E-ring on the shaft even prying up as you suggested. Maybe something distorted with age in the transmission.
Many thanks for your capable help!

Dick
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