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Doug Lassiter  
#11 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 4:39:47 PM(UTC)
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Sorry. That response got bolluxed. Start with "I never said ..."
fairbank56  
#12 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 5:42:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Doug Lassiter Go to Quoted Post
As a result, I had no idea if the timer had reached the point that it was commanding agitation.




So, I guess this is not an electronic control washer, but has just a mechanical timer? Need the washer model number. The timer does not "command" agitation at the start of the wash cycle. In fact, during fill, there is not even power to the timer motor, so it does not advance at all. The water level switch is a single pole double throw switch. The switch either directs power to the water valves or to the timer and motor via timer contacts. When you set the timer dial to start the wash cycle, it is already set up to agitate but agitate doesn't start because there is no power to the motor via the timer until the pressure switch changes from the empty position to the full position. When in the full position, power is directed to the timer and is cut off from the water valves. Now the timer and timer motor have power and since the timer contacts are already set to start agitation, agitation begins immediately (before the timer even advances).


If the tub overfills before agitation begins, then the pressure switch is not working properly. If you had the lid open, then you have no way of knowing if the pressure switch activated properly without actively troubleshooting with a multimeter. With the lid closed, if it was just the water valve that was the problem, it wouldn't have overflowed until after agitation started.


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If the timer tells the agitation to start, and kills the power on the valves, a stuck-open valve is going to stay open



The timer is already set to agitate when you put it in any portion of the wash cycle. The timer doesn't kill power to the valves, the pressure switch does. Yes, the stuck valve will still add water til it overflows but not until agitation has already started, if the pressure switch is working properly.



Eric

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#13 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:00:49 AM(UTC)
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Doug Lassiter

Congrats on finding and fixing the problem.
A great bit of troubleshooting on your part.

If you had replaced the water level switch as I suggested then of coarse the problem would not have been fixed.
My next suggestion would have been to replace the valves.
With intermittent problems I suggest the most likely cause and cross my fingers as often you cannot tell exactly what is going on.

Your close observation tells me you have a talent for troubleshooting.
Congrats again

denman
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fairbank56  
#14 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:28:16 AM(UTC)
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Ditto from me. I hope you now have a better understanding of how the washer works. A very important piece of the troubleshooting process was missed, timing of events during the wash cycle, simply because you had the lid open, interuppting the normal sequence. Bypass that lid switch next time. Overflow of the tub during the normal agitate portion of the cycle vice the fill portion is a huge clue to the problem.

Eric
Shad Blewett  
#15 Posted : Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:09:03 PM(UTC)
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If you had told us that it was continuing to fill after starting agitation, we could have told you the water valve was bad.

Eric

Same problem. How much air should it take to "click" the load size switch? I can blow air (softly) through air compressor to make washer stop filling, but not with my mouth blowing in the tube. Have blown out air dome box multiple times. Can blow easily thru tube when disconnected at both ends. I just sat thru 2 complete cycles with air compressor gently blowing thru the tube to keep the load size switch actuated...waiting for timer to go thru agitate and drain cycles.
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