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sfnum8  
#1 Posted : Monday, March 16, 2009 3:26:29 PM(UTC)
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I have a Samsung RS2534ww Side by Side refrigerator that is about 5 years old, the fan was making a loud noise, so I took the inside cover off of the refrigerator side and the coils were basically a solid sheet of ice. This happened a couple weeks ago and I unplugged the unit and did a complete defrost for about 2 days, powered on and reset the unit. A few days later the coils froze up again. The fan seems to be running a little loud and when you open the fridge door the fan shuts off, I believe the fan should keep running while the door is open, correct? Anyone have any ideas on what I can do to troubleshoot this, I spoke with the Samsung tech team and they were worthless.
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woodchuckie  
#2 Posted : Monday, March 16, 2009 6:22:35 PM(UTC)
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You probably have an automatic defrost problem. This ice buildup probably causes the fan noise. Lots of models do cut the fan off when you open the door. While you're troubleshooting it you can use a hairdryer to speed up the defrosting.

The defrost thermostat is clamped on the coils. It should show continuity with an ohm meter when it's cold and open when warm(above 35 degrees or so).

The defrost heater is at the coils and melts the ice during defrost. Disconnect it and it should show continuity between the two wires.

If both of these parts are ok the problem is the defrost timer(defrost control) part 6 on this diagram of your machine compartment & cabinet back. Replacement parts for MAYTAG RS2534WW | AppliancePartsPros.com
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#3 Posted : Monday, March 16, 2009 7:16:41 PM(UTC)
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Are the Samsung and Maytag fridges the same? The diagram given looks a little different than my fridge. I have three wire harnesses that plug in at the upper right part directly above the coils. What does the defrost thermostat look like, and also what exactly is meant by "the defrost heater is at the coils"?
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#4 Posted : Monday, March 16, 2009 7:48:36 PM(UTC)
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Part 38 on the freezer compartment diagram is the thermostat. It should be in contact with the coils. I believe the heater is part 43. It's below the coils so it will melt all the ice.

I did find the samsung on a sears parts site and the diagrams are the same.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:42:18 AM(UTC)
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Here is a service manual
http://www.servicematters.com/m...library/docs/SAM0096.pdf

For some reason I cannot actually view the entire manual, Explorer keeps shutting down, hopefully you will have better luck.

And now for the bad news.
http://www.servicematters.com/m.../docs/ASC20051129001.pdf

I had to read this a couple times as I could not believe a manufacturer could be this stupid!!!
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:05:28 AM(UTC)
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You referred to the "Freezer Compartment" in the previous post, my problem is with the "Refrigerator Compartment" diagram 10 correct?
What I can see in my fridge is this http://www.appliancepartspros.c...t_id=4136651&image=0

I also have this Replacement parts for MAYTAG RS2534WW | AppliancePartsPros.com that plugs in and runs over to the brass part of the coils)
I then have another wire harness that plugs in and runs down the right side of the coil and has a red and a black wire, the end is wrapped in foam, under the foam seems to be covered is some type of blue plastic.

Can you now tell me which part is which and how to test them.
Thanks again
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 4:07:50 AM(UTC)
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I have heard of that before. If it was mine and it went bad(which we don't know in this case yet) I would get a heater and rig it up with another one and place it like regular manufacturers do.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:31:52 AM(UTC)
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Here is another service manual which looks more relevant
http://www.servicematters.com/m...library/docs/SAM0059.pdf

Your first link looks like the tube with the wires coming out of it is the defrost heater. Could not find a spec for it but is probably around 30 ohms.

The manual does show a thermal fuse in the evap area. This should be 0 ohms.

Also shows a thermistor, the resistance should change with temperature, see the table in the manual.

You will need a meter.
If you do not have one, I would suggest you purchase a meter. You can get a decent digital multimeter for under $20.00. You do not need fancy though it is nice if the leads are a couple feet long.
If it saves ordering one unnecessary part it has paid for itself and you end up owning a useful tool.
Most places will not let you return electrical parts so if you order it, you own it.
A couple things to watch when measuring ohms and continuity
1. Always remove power from the machine otherwise you could blow your meter.
2. Always disconnect at least one side of any device you are checking. This eliminates the possibility of measuring an alternate/parallel circuit path.
3. When checking for closed contacts and continuity use the lowest scale (Usually 200 ohms). Then try higher scales. This scale is 0 to 200 ohms so if the device you are measuring is 300 ohms this scale would show an open circuit which it is not, you are just measuring outside the scale's dynamic range.

There is a good STICKY at the start of this forum about it's use.

woodchuckie
Hopefully the heater is OK. I also would be looking at a jiggery pokery if it was blown. Perhaps a length of pipe heating cable would work here depending on the wattage.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:04:05 PM(UTC)
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O.K. I tested everything around the coil and all wires had continuity, but I also tested the heater that is connected to the main compartment that pulls off of the inside back of the fridge(the heater is right below the fan) #29 in this diagram http://www.appliancepartspros.c...=1360535&NewWindow=1, it did not show continuity. I assume this should be replaced and should be the problem, correct?
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:57:10 AM(UTC)
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I do not think this part would effect the defrost operation but am not sure.
Perhaps Woodchuckie or someone else knows.

I would try to force the unit into a defrost, see Page 8 in the second manual I linked to.
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