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Hector Pacheco  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:33:26 AM(UTC)
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Hello,
We notice the problem, because the refrigerator was not cooloing enough, the milk keep getting warmer. Also noticed the ice melting on the freezer, but the bottom area was frozen. I did suspected to be the heater assembly, but aftyer I got to them I was able to read about 11 ohms, I think it is OK, the other part that could cause the problem could be the
defrost timer, but I have no clue on how to check/test this unit.
Could it be possible to get some ideas, before deciding which part I need to get/buy.Thanks for your assistance/Help. Hector
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woodchuckie  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:43:18 AM(UTC)
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If the heater checks out ok and the defrost thermostat works it is the timer. You can turn the timer till it clicks and check to see if the heater comes on. If it does the timer isn't running. Part 257 on this diagram. http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/getSubComp.pd?diagramPageId=00007&documentId=00053650&modelNumber=3639512585&productCategoryId=0165000&brandId=0582&modelName=&backToLink=Return+to+part+list
denman  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:45:06 PM(UTC)
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When you removed the heater, were the evaporator coils clogged up with ice.
If not then your defrost system is probably OK.

Check that the evaporator (freezer) fan is running.
Note some units have a door switch so the fan shuts off when the door is open so you may have to press this.
The fan is required to equalize the temperatures in the freezer and also force cold air into the fresh food section.
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Hector Pacheco  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:26:30 PM(UTC)
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Woodchukie,

When I did finally opened the panel the lower section of the coils were frozen. The upper section was not. They did defrost during the troubleshooting process. My question or doubt is what will be a real reading on each of the heater resistances, they look like a spring inside a glass tube. Presently the coils are frosted, but I still don't get enough cold air to the fridge. Even thou I have not installed the freezer back panel, just in case, it is not easy. I did turn some the defrost control knob, it only turns one way, but I am clueless on how to check it, I could not find an electrical diagram on the unit. Thanks for the hints. Hector
Hector Pacheco  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:27:30 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: woodchuckie Go to Quoted Post
If the heater checks out ok and the defrost thermostat works it is the timer. You can turn the timer till it clicks and check to see if the heater comes on. If it does the timer isn't running. Part 257 on this diagram. KENMORE | Model #3639512585 | REFRIGERATOR | FRESH FOOD SECTION | SearsPartsDirect.com

Woodchukie I posted my next steps, can you check , Please, Hector
woodchuckie  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:37:18 PM(UTC)
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As mentioned in denman's post, the fan has to be running to distribute the cold air.

If that is an uneven frost pattern on the coils then that is a sign of low freon in the system, requireing a tech.

When you turn the defrost timer, you should feel or hear a click which is either turning the heater on or off. Watch the heater. It will glow red when it's on. During the troubleshooting you said it melted the ice. Did all of it melt and you now have the normal light frosting or did it not melt all of the ice.
Hector Pacheco  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:45:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: woodchuckie Go to Quoted Post
As mentioned in denman's post, the fan has to be running to distribute the cold air.

If that is an uneven frost pattern on the coils then that is a sign of low freon in the system, requireing a tech.

When you turn the defrost timer, you should feel or hear a click which is either turning the heater on or off. Watch the heater. It will glow red when it's on. During the troubleshooting you said it melted the ice. Did all of it melt and you now have the normal light frosting or did it not melt all of the ice.

Woodchukie,

I did hear the defrost control turn and click, it only goes one way. How to checck it is another story.
But I was not looking into the heater to see if it glows I will look at it tonite when I get home. The melting could have being caused by having the unit OFF, but i did check it before coming to school and it was an even frost on all coils (I have the back panel open, to continue my troubleshooting) Maybe that is why there was nothing frozen this evening or not that much coolnes in the refrigerator, not like this morning that evrything at the bottom of the freezer was frozen and the refrigerator was warm.
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