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Daxman  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:29:15 AM(UTC)
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So I have a Speedaire Brand Air Line Chiller (for use with my compressed air lines to remove condensation) that badly blew out its relay about a year ago. Trying to find replacement relay was hopeless. Model discontinued. Someone on a ask a repairman website pointed me to a whirlpool 66857-2 Refrigerator Compressor Relay as something that should do the trick as a replacement part. It has taken me months to get this far and now that I try to install it I have no clue which wires go where. The relay has no markings that I can decipher. It has three contact points.

I have 4 wires to connect:
1 is the ac from the power supply
1 appears to be the power to the fan motor
2 come out of a philips brand electric start motor, used, I assume, to kick start the compressor.

I am no appliance repairman, but I am still handy with these kinds of things, but with no schematic or markings on anything I haven't a clue.

Attached are photos of the new relay and the melted one while it was still wired. It just isn't as simple as connecting the same wires to the same place on the new relay.

Thanks
Daxman
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richappy  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:56:39 AM(UTC)
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Looks like the old start relay is a copper coil type. Either trace or measure from the power input pin that goes to the coil and the output pin that goes to the compressor from the other end of the coil. That is the run pin, usually bottom right.
If so, your new ptc device must do the same thing, supply power to the run pin and temporary power to the start pin though it's internal waifer.
** Warning, your new start ptc device can be wired wrong. If you put power to the start pin you will blow out the compressor start winding real fast, just be very careful and verify you have identified start and run compressor pins. Also, verify with a meter that your compressor pins are not grounded to the case
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