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charleyk  
#31 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:33:56 AM(UTC)
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So would you say that if the new tubing and new water level switch does not solve the problem, the only thing left is the timer? Thing is, I found out the timer is costly so testing with a new timer is an expensive thing to try. But, if it can't be anything else it might be worth it. Or with the machine being about 8 years old it might be time at that point to just get a new washer. What do you think?
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:45:01 AM(UTC)
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I usually junk a washer when the tranny or motor goes.

I do not like giving advise on this type of thing.
There are just too many variables like:
1. What is the units overall condition
2. What will a replacement unit cost you
3. Have you been satisfied with the units performance
etc., etc.

Here is what consumers recommends if the unit is 5 years or older and the repair cost is over $100.00 - Replace It. Mind you I am not a big Consumers fan.

On purchasing a new one I do recommend that you do not buy fancy. Get a unit that does what you need, the more bells and whistles that are added the more expensive parts to replace in the future. If at all possible stay away from units with electronics in them. I am not convinced that appliance manufacturing design engineers have a clue on how to design a reliable robust electronic board. Also it is best to get a unit that has been around for a while, you then at least should be able to get some user info/history on it.

One other thing is do not go chasing the best EnergySaver rating, in reality you may not be saving yourself money or the environment in the long run. Manufacturers try to get the best rating they can and often do rather stupid things to achieve this. I cannot see how any energy or money is saved if the unit ends up in a landfill in 5 years. These ratings do not take into account the energy used to manufacture the thing in the first place.
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charleyk  
#33 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:55:06 AM(UTC)
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OK. Thanks for the advice and I understand your position. One thing that might help us decide what to do.

From your experience with washers and how they operate, could anything other than the water level switch, pressure hose, drain hose, or Timer be causing the problem? I ask this because once I'm left with only the timer, the decision becomes one of "Is this machine worth around $100 more to keep it in service? Won't hold you to it but you certainly know more than I do.
charleyk  
#34 Posted : Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:23:09 PM(UTC)
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OK. I've changed the hose and the same thing happens.

Here's a thought. Does anyone think or has anyone ever seen a new water level switch that was bad? I'm thinking, what if some person replaced their switch and then returned the bad one. I'm sure the retailer would just resell the switch as good. Far fetched, yes. Impossibile, probably not. I'm thinking to go back to Sears where I got the switch and see what happens. Your thoughts? Don't know what else to do.
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#35 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:14:04 AM(UTC)
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It is a possibility sometimes parts are bad right out of the box.
Does not happen often but it does happen.
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#36 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:57:38 AM(UTC)
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the trouble sure sounds like it,s in the timer, remove the timer, check the points inside the timer ,see if there burn,t up, if so replace the timer..
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#37 Posted : Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:50:43 AM(UTC)
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abbie OR anyone else that looks at this
Do you have access to the wiring diagram and a timing chart OR have you seen this problem so that you can confirm that the timer is the culprit.

charleyk does not want to put more dollars into the unit unless there is a high probability that it will fix the problem

I have also put a request for help in the Tech Forum.

Thanks
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charleyk  
#38 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2009 6:08:52 PM(UTC)
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THE PROBLEM IS FIXED.

I exchanged the water level switch and the machine is working perfectly fine now. Unbelievable. Parts counter fellow didn't give it a second thought as it seems this kind of stuff does occasionally happen.

Thanks to all of you, kayakrzy,denman, and abbie for taking the time to help me out. Without your feedback, I would have given up long ago.

Kayakrzy, a question for you. When I replaced the pressure hose a few days ago I used a vinyl hose from homedepot. Seems quite strong and fairly thick wall but a bit stiffer than the original. Is it OK to leave that on there? I don't ever want to look for this problem again.
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#39 Posted : Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:49:50 AM(UTC)
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That is great news!!!

I tend not to trust new parts and try to check them before installing, but this part would have checked OK so finding it was quite an accomplishment.

On the hose I would leave it, if it starts to mess up in the future you will know what part to suspect first. There is nothing special about the tubes the manufactures use.

Once again congratulations and I admire your perseverance.
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