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steamin  
#11 Posted : Saturday, January 15, 2011 2:00:48 PM(UTC)
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Got a valve and put it on and not the problem. When I turn the dishwasher on the water starts to flow and almost within 8-10 seconds the center arm trys to push out water but cannot. Then the water drains. and it runs dry and does not fill with water.
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#12 Posted : Sunday, January 16, 2011 2:58:12 AM(UTC)
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Did you check that the water valve was getting power?

Let it start and keep opening the door often so you can tell what exactly is going on.
Usually on these units the pump is running while the unit is filling.

This is a GE so trying to get ant tech info is difficult. They like yo keep everything a secret.

It is sounding like a timer problem.
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#13 Posted : Sunday, January 16, 2011 3:59:53 AM(UTC)
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I did not check to see if it was getting power I just put a new valve on. I have been watching the dishwasher when it is on. I am able to close the latch while the door is open. The water goes in and the bottom arm tries to almost start to spin. There is a lot of water that appears to be coming out from the bottom of the arm. The underside of the arm. But even then it trys to spin right away but there is not enough pressure. Then the water stops within 20 seconds and the discharged pump turns on and empties the water. No more water then enters the dishwasher.

I just dont want to put of 3-4-500 on a new one. These machines are not that complicated and look fairly easy to fix please help?
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#14 Posted : Sunday, January 16, 2011 4:58:58 AM(UTC)
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[COLOR="Green"]the discharged pump turns on[/COLOR]
Could you check the parts link that I posted earlier, just to be sure it is the same as yours. I do not see a discharge pump in the parts.

Just the main pump/motor and a wash/drain solenoid to control those functions.

Is the water coming out, under the wash arms, coming out of a hole.
There should be a small flapper valve (Item 557 in Section 3), that closes this hole during wash.

If I do have the correct model as far as parts here is how it should work.
The wash /drain solenoid should be up. It controls a flapper valve in the pump assembly which either directs the water up to the wash arms or out the drain hose.
Cycle started
Water enters the unit.
Pump starts.
The water entering and the pump running may happen at the same time or may have an overlap.
It should fill to just under the heating element.
Water shuts off but pump continues to run as you are in a wash cycle.
At end of the wash cycle.
Wash/drain solenoid is pulled down. It is energized for a couple seconds and then the water pressure keeps the flapper valve closed till the unit is empty.
When the unit is empty, the springs on the solenoid pull the plunger up, back into the wash position and the unit fills again for the next cycle.

All of the above are just timed events.

Unfortunately the parts do not show the pump assembly. If you look down the throat (where the wash arms are), you will see the wash/drain flapper valve. Many of them have a hole in the center which has a rubber tip in it. Check that that i9s there.
If it is just a hole then some water can be pumping out of the unit when in a wash cycle.
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#15 Posted : Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:18:35 AM(UTC)
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If you look at the diagram water seems to come out right above#545. I am not home right now, but I dont see water coming out of the hole in the arm. I would have to double check. But the diagram does look accurate. I did have the unit apart and I did observe the flapper in the tube system. Its white with a black seal around the outter side. Water does enter the system but does not fill to under the heating element. Do you think the inner valve seal is Bad? What are i9s? I dont know whats going on with this piece of junk.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, January 16, 2011 7:30:50 AM(UTC)
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[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Do you think the inner valve seal is Bad?[/COLOR]
I sorgt of doubt it as you probably would have noticed if it was messed up.

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]What are i9s?[/COLOR]
Sorry but I do not understand the above.

OK, lets try this.
Let the unit fill.
Then when the wash starts, open the door and add a couple quarts of hot water to just under the heating element.
Just take care that you do not overfill it.
Then close the door and see if it runs OK.
Check the drain by ear to see if while washing it is pumping out water.
You should also be able to tell by just feeling the drain hose for the heat given off by the watyer running through it.
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#17 Posted : Sunday, January 16, 2011 7:54:40 AM(UTC)
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I NOT AT home but it would almost immediately go to the drain. Yesterday I started it and then felt the drain tube and it was warm. Let me get back to ya. ill call the lady and have her fill it.
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#18 Posted : Sunday, January 16, 2011 8:26:46 AM(UTC)
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she filled it up to the heating element and it just drained....
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#19 Posted : Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:10:54 AM(UTC)
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Sounds to me that something is going on with the wash/drain flapper valve.

Is the solenoid plunder up or down?
Does it stay up during the wash cycle?
For wash it should be up.

If it is up then the only thing I can think of is that the flapper has come loose from the shaft that connects it to the solenoid.
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