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gottado  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:52:53 PM(UTC)
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We purchased this Mccall commercial refer used at an auction about 6 months ago, placed it in our garage and are using it to store perishable items for our farmers market events. It has been working great untill now, the temperature outside in the PNW has dropped into the low low 20's (not so normal) for a few days now and my wife noticed the refigerator was blowing warm air inside. I investigated the unit with my novice knowledge, I have a hunch the ambient temperature is a player in this. The evaporater was not iced up at all and turning the thermostat to the coldest setting did not kick in the compressor. Just to make sure the compressor was in working order I bypassed the thermostat and plugged her in and the compressor came on so I let it run for a while and sure enough the cooling cycle was working fine and refer box got cold.

So my question is: is the ambient temperature the culprit affecting the thermostat or could it be a bad thermostat.

I know this is a commercial unit and hope it's not beyond this forum, any help would be appreciated.
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denman  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:58:11 PM(UTC)
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I cannot find info on this unit but that should not matter.

It does sound like an ambient temperature problem.

The unit does a defrost cycle but since the ambient temperature is so cold the compressor does not come on. Then the heat from the defrost stays in the unit melting everything.

There is a kit available the adds heat to the thermostat fooling the unit into thinking it is too warm and turning of the compressor after defrost.
It will work with freezer on top, thermostat units.
You may have to do some jiggery pokery.
Note: That running a fridge at temperatures below freezing can be hard on it because the oil in the compressor thickens.

Part number: AP3722172
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gottado  
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:19:32 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the quick response Denman,

I have been very much educated today on the drawbacks of having a refer or freezer in the garage. Though this does not pose a threat for us in the summer months as our garage stays fairly temperate I did locate a manual that covers this unit if that helps you to help me:
http://www.basequipment.com/v/s...ccall/44045G-SERVICE.pdf

I also came across this product: a "Self-Regulating Crankcase Heater" while googling for info, Its used to keep the compessor warm durring those cold spells protecting the oils with in.
http://www.tycothermal.com/assets/Americas/English/Document/Installation%20Operation%20and%20Maintenance%20Manuals/2619/H55593_FreezGard_II_0109.pdf

So the question that still remains for me is how do I trick the thermostat (if it is indeed good) to cooperate.
denman  
#4 Posted : Friday, November 26, 2010 6:17:31 AM(UTC)
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I do not know if the garage/thermostat heater can be used on your unit.
Depends on whether you can get it to fit.
It is more for top mount freezers.

The compressor heater will help with the oil thickening but will do nothing to prevent your food from thawing.
I guess it depends on what your lowest ambient temperature would be. As long as it is close to 32 degrees F you should be OK.
I did Google it and found a wide variance in price so if you do decide to go with it then I would shop around.

There is another possibility and that is to install a switch in the defrost heater circuit. Then in the winter you shut the defrost heater off basically you are turning it into a manual defrost fridge. This should not cause a problem as it sounds like this is an extra unit so you are not going into it very often.
Also the humidity is lower in the winter so when you do go into it you will not be adding much humidity.

When/if you get a couple nice days then you could turn the heater on and let it do a defrost.
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gottado  
#5 Posted : Friday, November 26, 2010 6:10:25 PM(UTC)
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Thanks again denman,

Hope you enjoyed a nice Thanksgiving day and didn't spend too much time on the forum. I appreciate the good info you brought forth. I gathered that the garage/thermostat wasn't for my situation and as for the compressor heater, I do realize the prices vary from site to site and I definitely will shop it when the time comes.

I did like your thought though on installing a kill switch in the defrost heater circuit ( great Idea ), though I may need some guidance as to where in between to install this switch on my unit and just a thought; would this affect the compressor in the sense that it would run all the time? I may not get around to this for a few days (other priorities) and still need to test the thermostat making sure it works. As for now the refer is off and empty with no product to spoil but it looks like the weather is begining to warm up again as the rains approach.

I will stay on it.
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