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WI_Badger  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:49:22 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GTS_NY Go to Quoted Post
WI_BADGER: I have exactly the freezer and problem. I'm hoping you can tell me where you order the part. Thanks.


Hey GTS_NY,

You're in luck! you can order the part right from this website.

Part Details - SEA 3 in 1 Relay Combo Kit, part number: AP3540659

I got mine at a local store that had the part in stock, but it is the same exact part. Good luck with your freezer... mine is still running strong almost 9 months later.

Badger
GTS_NY  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:45:32 PM(UTC)
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Badger: Got the part. Now, I just have to figure out how to put it in or pay someone to put it in for me.
GTS_NY  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:55:50 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Badger ... Glad to hear that after nine months your freezer is still running. Great job.
How hard was it to put it in? Amateur here. If it's not too much to ask, can you tell me how you did it or maybe a SNAPSHOT of the replacement part installed? Did you have to do any soldering? Again, thanks for any info. I just hate it to junk this. I know I could probably squeeze a few more years from it.
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#14 Posted : Monday, August 17, 2009 7:35:14 PM(UTC)
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I also have a 183.13601300 freezer that does not work. I bought a 3 in 1 as mentioned, but when I looked at how to wire it up, it made absolutely no sense. The diagram on the 3 in 1 shows 3 connections and the power wires. There are too many parts to determine whice wires they are speaking of replacing. Please help with diagrams or instructions. I do not know what each component is called, which one is the capacitor and so on.

Thank you.
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tangfoot  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:37:45 PM(UTC)
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Badger, I would also be interested in seeing a picture of how you wired in the replacement part. When I look at the existing (broken) relay on mine, I see six wires, 2 green, 2 black, 1 red, 1 white. The picture of the part you bought shows 5 wires (3 black, 1 red, 1 white).

What is the proper wiring required for this to work?
freezer2  
#16 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:19:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: tangfoot Go to Quoted Post
Badger, I would also be interested in seeing a picture of how you wired in the replacement part. When I look at the existing (broken) relay on mine, I see six wires, 2 green, 2 black, 1 red, 1 white. The picture of the part you bought shows 5 wires (3 black, 1 red, 1 white).

What is the proper wiring required for this to work?

Did anyone ever figure how to wire this? We have the same problem and have no idea how to wire this.... begging for help guys!!!
richappy  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:00:54 AM(UTC)
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I would NEVER use a 3n 1 start device on a modern compressor. Eventually it will fail with both windings burning out.
The 3n1 has no overload klixon to protect the compressor during overload conditions, and there is no thermal protection. It is designed to provide a much larger starting current to overcome either a partially shorted start winding, or other mechanical/electrical characteristics increasing starting torqe requirements.
Compressor manufacturers select a specific current trip point klixon for each model of compressor they make that is designed to trip open fast during overload conditions and stay open a sufficient period to allow the compressor windings to cool down.
Compressors typically draw more than 3000 watts peak during start periods.If the compressor fails to start for any reason, including brown out conditions, which happen ocassionally, the rms power consumed will blow out both windings. I have seen compressor windings blow open and short to the compressor housing when a 3n1 was used!
For the more robust, older compressors that are rated higher than 1/4 hp, the magnetic core material permeability curve is "softer" and the greater core cross section area prevents total saturation, limiting the inrush power to levels that do not damage the compressor windings.
mrandmrsfixit  
#18 Posted : Saturday, March 19, 2011 10:34:24 AM(UTC)
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Hi Richappy,
Since a 3-in-1 is not recommended and the part is not available, I was wondering if there was a part that would be compatible with this freezer. It's listed as RF-0010-65 in the Kenmore manual and as part#AP3723113 (made by Haier) on the Appliancepartspro website.

We're just stuck right now as how to proceed. I wouldn't want to use anything that has even a remote chance of causing a fire. If there is not a compatible part, then I guess it will have to go into the landfill which i just hate to see in a freezer that's only 5 years old. The switch seems pretty basic and I would think there would be alternatives, but being inexperienced in freezer repair, I just don't know.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
richappy  
#19 Posted : Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:17:26 AM(UTC)
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Need the model # to help.
mrandmrsfixit  
#20 Posted : Saturday, March 19, 2011 2:09:49 PM(UTC)
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Sorry I forgot to include the model #. It's the same freezer that WI_Badger was trying to repair.

Sears Parts Direct Model# 183.13601300

Thanks in advance.
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