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rytom  
#1 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:18:02 PM(UTC)
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Washer has a serious balance problem during the spin cycle. The machine washes clothes normally, except for the noise. I have already taken the front covers off the machine, and observed a couple of wash/spin cycles, and I cannot find anything obvious that is causing the shaking during the spin cycle. All the drum springs are intact, and seem to be attached properly. There are no leaks, or evidence of rust or any other problem. The only time things go wrong, is when the tub spins at higher RPM's. I have seen on some forums, that a problem like this is sometimes caused by a leaking tub shaft, and usually related to leaking, but I see no indication of that being the case with this machine. The lower area is in very good shape, and appears near new, the machine is about 3 years old. Is there any solid attachment of the Drum assembly to the base plate, other than the Drum Springs? The whole assembly just seems to get out of control, and travels excessively, once the drum starts spinning at higher speeds.
Thanks very much for any help.
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fixtec90  
#2 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2008 7:09:14 AM(UTC)
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First make sure you are well leveled. I believe your back legs are self-leveling but the fronts are not. Each foot should have a rubber boot on it.
Next remove agitator make sure that the 4 1/2 bolts securing the inner tub haven't started to loosen.
Next closely inspect base for a crack around each spring (this would normally give you a creaking noise, so it not likely your issue).
If all that stuff is ok I'd replace the snubber/friction ring and springs.
fixtec90  
#3 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2008 7:20:39 AM(UTC)
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I didn't notice your noise comment the first time. When is it noisy? wash or spin cycle? It could be important.
rytom  
#4 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2008 9:45:26 PM(UTC)
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Fixtec90, Thnaks for the reply. The noise I'm referring to happens during the spin cycle only, and seems to be the result of the the whole drum assembly acting like it wants to come out of the cabinet. By the way, the cabinet doesn't move much at all, so I don't think it has anything to do with the feet not being adjusted properly. You're right about the back legs self adjusting, and they seem to work well. It's just when the spin cycle starts, and the drum gets up to speed, that the whole unit starts getting out of control. I did notice that if I pull on the top of the drum in any direction, it seems to move a good 6 inches off center in any direction. I don't know if that is normal or not. It does seem like a lot of movement. Does this snubber/friction ring attach to anything under the washing assembly, or is it just sort of a ball/socket arrangement?
Thanks again.
fixtec90  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 1, 2008 4:18:12 AM(UTC)
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I think I understand your issue much better now? I think you need a lip seal kit. When you put it in spin, as it gets up to speed do you start wondering if the washer is going to take off and fly away? The snubber is a plastic ring that keeps the milkstool from rubbing directly on the base. Based on the extra info you probably don't need a snubber. A lot of tub movement is normal as long as it's not hitting the cabinet or moving acroos the floor.
rytom  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 1, 2008 10:10:13 AM(UTC)
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That sounds like you hit on the right solution. It definitely sounds like it's ready to take off, while in the Spin cycle. In fact, with the cover off, I was worried it might come right out of the cabinet. After your suggestion, I looked closely at the part on the top of the tub, and I think that's my whole problem. The white plastic piece that is a cap on the outer tub, seems to be broken. I had thought it was supposed to be that way, but now I can see that it has completely torn itself into two pieces. The only thing is, Amana calls it a Top, Outer Tub, instead of a lip seal kit, but I think that is the problem for sure. It doesn't look too bad to replace either. I just ordered part # AP3676767 from Appliance Pros. Thanks very much, for your help. I appreciate your taking the time to respond, and help me figure out the problem. Thanks again. :D Tom
rytom  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, April 9, 2008 10:05:28 PM(UTC)
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After my last post, I finally received the replacement outer tub top cover, and that is not the problem after all. What I thought was broken, turns out to be two separate parts after all. I thought the outer tub cover, and the balance ring were a single part that had split into two pieces, but now I see they are two separate parts. They are just worn from rubbing, due to the vibration. Sooooo, once again, I would like to ask for some help. I did find the main reason for the out of balance, during high speed spin. It's the tub itself that has fractures, and broken pieces around the 4 mounting bolts under the agitator, that connect it to the transmission. My concern is what caused the tub to fracture like this. The balance ring has fluid in it, but how can I tell if it has the proper amount of fluid?? Are there other things that could have caused this, or is it probable that the broken tub is the whole problem. FYI, the machine is leveled properly, and the floor is not the problem, in fact the cabinet stays surprisingly steady, considering the wild movements coming from the tub inside.
Thanks for any help. :confused:
THOR  
#8 Posted : Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:24:05 AM(UTC)
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I just replaced my balance ring. I too was wondering how much fluid was supposed to be in there - as it had worn through and was leaking.

The new one weighed almost double what the old one did - even though there was still fluid in the old one, it seems to have lost a great deal.

My spin cycle is now much improved! Hope this helps.
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