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richappy  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:01:53 AM(UTC)
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AP Wagner site shows a sidewinder motor, not a vertical one.
simonboyce  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:05:26 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: richappy Go to Quoted Post
If you have the older style vertical motor with impeller and it will not come off, here is a procedure for this.
First thing, trying to torque the 1/4 inch screw off with a nut driver and vice grips is a bad idea, might just bust the screw off in the motor shaft.
Take a sharp wood chisel and gently pound down on the top edge of the impeller close to the screw. Crack it away from the shaft, then put penetrating oil on the screw and take it off. Works every time, just be careful not to pound down too hard, might damage the motor.


Hi Richappy: Can you be more specific about where to pound on the impeller with the chisel? Also, once you've taken off the impeller, how do you hold the motor shaft still so you can unscrew the bolt? I've attached a pic just to make sure I'm talking about the right thing.
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chrisxx  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:50:49 AM(UTC)
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Simon,

Thanks for the response but I ended up canning the dishwasher and getting a new one...regretfully.
stonehouse  
#14 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:23:38 AM(UTC)
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I've gotten to the same point at the previous post. How to hold other end to remove 1/4 bolt. I need a new idea.
simonboyce  
#15 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:39:27 AM(UTC)
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Yeah, I've removed the pump/motor assembly and when I shake it something rattles around, so I want to disassemble it before I spend $200 on a new one. I'm eyeing those 4 torx bolts under the black impeller disk...
stonehouse  
#16 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:23:44 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: simonboyce Go to Quoted Post
Yeah, I've removed the pump/motor assembly and when I shake it something rattles around, so I want to disassemble it before I spend $200 on a new one. I'm eyeing those 4 torx bolts under the black impeller disk...



Yep, and they're looking back at me. So far, its a stand-off.
simonboyce  
#17 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:36:58 AM(UTC)
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What about holding on to those kind of fins underneath the motor so the spindle can't turn? You think that would potentially end up screwing up the motor?
richappy  
#18 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:54:31 PM(UTC)
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Sorry for the delay, you pound on the impeller near the 1/4 inch screw, that's where it is rusted to the shaft. Also, there is a flat on the motor shaft that you can hold with an adjustable wrench while you carefully remove the screw. I use penetrating oil on it and work it back and forth till it get loose.
stonehouse  
#19 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:06:05 PM(UTC)
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Does the motor have to come out to get to the flat spot on the shaft?
simonboyce  
#20 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:12:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: richappy Go to Quoted Post
Sorry for the delay, you pound on the impeller near the 1/4 inch screw, that's where it is rusted to the shaft. Also, there is a flat on the motor shaft that you can hold with an adjustable wrench while you carefully remove the screw. I use penetrating oil on it and work it back and forth till it get loose.

Thanks Richappy. Bottom line, there's no way to disassemble the pump from the motor without destroying that plastic impeller disk thing?
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