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Last 10 Posts (In reverse order)
dab147 Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:13:45 AM(UTC)
 
Yeah been doing this 40 years and just retired.Those side by side can be a PITA.Keep it going as long as you can,because the new ones will be junk.
bobvance Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:37:30 AM(UTC)
 
UPDATE: All is working fine now!

I fixed the faulty heater wiring connector.
Actually, I just cut out the old connector and then used a Raychem heat-shrink DuraSeal butt connector. I also put additional heat shrink around that (belt & suspenders :>) to be sure no moisture could get in.
BTW, this was a pretty big PITA.
The heater wiring is way in back and very hard to access to get a good crimp on the connection.
Furthermore, the freezer is very narrow, so I got a good workout contorting myself sideways, with one arm above and the other one below. I think that the next time I do this to an 18-yr old fridge, I'll just strip, twist, tape, and heat-shrink and avoid trying to crimp!

I was still waiting for the new bi-metal defrost thermostat to arrive,
but in the meantime everything was working, albeit with the old thermo.

The new thermo arrived yesterday and I just installed it last evening.
Again, I used the same technique as above to connect it in.
With longer wires and being a little more in the front, it was a lot easier to deal with.

Manually tested everything -- OK.

I left it overnight and it's gone thru a full cycle on its own and it's looking good!

I'm putting it back together now.

bv
dab147 Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 3:43:29 PM(UTC)
 
How did you make out?
bobvance Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 5:54:02 AM(UTC)
 
Quick follow-up.
Since the old freezer bi-metal thermostat seemed to be working now (after I removed it, heated and froze it a few times, and banged it around a little), and the heater is working (although with a flakey wiring connector), I decided to put the old thermo back in line and manually test the defrost cycle.

I let it run in cooling mode for while to let the thermo get to low temp.
Then I manually advanced the defrost timer defrost mode and let it run.
The heater came on and started defrosting, so the thermo was definitely closed.
I let it finish the defrost, but I didn't check whether the thermo opened up at high temp before the full 30 mins of defrost mode on the timer expired. Doesn't really matter since a brand new one is on the way in the mail.

Anyway, I left it all hooked up and let it run normally the rest of the day and overnight.
This morning I checked it and the defrost mode had just finished not too long ago and the evaporator coil was clean as a whistle.

Again, I think that I'll be good with the new thermo and heater wiring.

bv
bobvance Posted: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:10:10 AM(UTC)
 
!!!!!
I checked a few minutes later
(just to clean the drain pan from the previous defrost),
and
the TIMER is RUNNING !! -- in COMPRESSOR mode !!
!!!!!

So, apparently, I just had to let the compressor run for a few minutes and he did something to close a circuit to the timer.

So now I have a new timer -- OK
Will have a new thermostat -- also OK.
I just need to replace the wiring to the heater (and maybe the heater) and I should be good to go !!

Thanks for all the help so far.

I'll follow up when I have built a whole new refrigerator - haha.

bv
bobvance Posted: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:50:26 AM(UTC)
 
(EDIT: Never mind !! -- see the NEXT post
)



It finished the defrost, the timer exited to COMPRESSOR mode, having run for 30 mins.
I left the DEFROST circuit CLOSED, 'cause the timer is out of defrost mode, anyway.

However, still NO POWER to the timer, even though

. timer is in non-defrost mode

. Cold Control is *closed* (compressor & all fans running and freezer is cooling

. Defrost Bi-Metal is *closed*

So, why would the timer not be running??

bv
bobvance Posted: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:20:14 AM(UTC)
 
So, I tossed the thermostat into the freezer overnight and tested it again this morning.
Now, it's CLOSED at cold, so not sure what I saw yesterday, although I did shake it around a bit while I fooling with it last night.

Anyway, so I decided to FORCE the thermo circuit closed -- I just used a wire nut and shorted the ends where I had cut the thermo loose yesterday.

NO GO :[ -- timer (still in COMPRESSOR mode) not moving - motor not running (in the new timer it has a clear housing and you can actually see the motor.

So, I manually advanced timer to DEFROST mode.
Heater not heating up :[

BUT!
As I was looking at the wiring harness in the freezer, moving wires around I heard the telltale hiss of a short and it looked like it was coming from one of the heater element connectors. So, I wiggled the connector around and the heater came on !!

So, right now I'm just letting it finish the defrosting -- the timer runs about 30 mins.

When done, I'll OPEN up the thermo circuit and see what happens,

Will report back.

bv
bobvance Posted: Thursday, March 12, 2015 4:39:53 PM(UTC)
 
I snipped the thermostat out and it looks like it is open at all temps, so I am ordering a new one. Of course, the thermo was my initial thought, but during messing around I got the heater to actually come on twice, so thought it must be the timer.
Hopefully, new thermo will fix it and the new timer was unnecessary. But, I certainly learned a lot more about timers than I intended, so the money and time was well spent.

I will update when I get new thermostat.

bv
dab147 Posted: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:27:09 PM(UTC)
 
Originally Posted by: bobvance Go to Quoted Post
yes, all of the evaporator covered w frost totally full top-to bottom and at bottom plugged the air holes so that the food comp warmed up -- that's how I first noticed it: the wine wasn't as chilly as normal ;>)

bv

Wine wasn,t chilly.Can,t have that.3 things cause heavy frost ,timer , heater and defrost thermostat.I would change that defrost thermostat.
bobvance Posted: Thursday, March 12, 2015 3:20:35 PM(UTC)
 
yes, all of the evaporator covered w frost totally full top-to bottom and at bottom plugged the air holes so that the food comp warmed up -- that's how I first noticed it: the wine wasn't as chilly as normal ;>)

bv