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Punisher Bass 10-14-2016 04:29 PM

Kitchen Aid was has died on me
 
I made two threads about this (now 24 year old) washer last year, first I had the coupler explode on me and then about a month later the motor controller went out. The second problem took me about a month to track down and fix, and the washer had been fine until tonight.

I was washing a load of towels and then I believe at some point during the rinse or spin cycle, it just crapped out on me. It will just sit there and do nothing, much like it did when the controller died. I don't believe it's the timer since I still heard it ticking away, but I do have a spare sitting around that I got last summer when I thought that might have been my problem.

I also don't think it's the controller itself since it shows no signs of damage or being burned out, the previous showed discoloration on the tips and the end of the wiring harness, but there's none of that this time around. It all looks clear and clean to me.

So I have the same issue as last year but none of the evidence to support it, what do you guys think it could be? Please help me because I'm at a total loss. And finally, the model number is KAWE540WWH2 serial number is CB2501219.

brobriffin 10-15-2016 07:42 AM

So it won't agitate or spin?
Perhaps your start capacitor is bad
Whirlpool WP8572717 Capacitor - AppliancePartsPros.com

ThatGuy 10-15-2016 10:57 AM

Have you checked the lid switch?

The motor and timer are no longer available.

Punisher Bass 10-15-2016 02:08 PM

Thanks both of you.

The capacitor has crossed my mind, but I've no idea how to check it. I'm basically a stupid monkey when it comes to using a multimeter. Visually I saw nothing indicating it's gone bad, but anything is possible.

I'm reasonably sure it's not the lid switch. When it's working, the machine will still agitate if you lift the lid, it will only halt if it's doing a spin cycle. I don't think the motor suddenly died because again, I didn't see or smell anything that looked like it was fried.

brobriffin 10-15-2016 04:03 PM

So at this point the motor will not agitate or spin?
You are right in some models the lid switch does not defeat the agitate mode. So if it is not agitating nor spinning the capacitor might be the culprit.
Testing it is easy if your multimeter can test for micro-farads.
Yours should test between 189-227 f (microfarads).
here is a video how to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRt9...=TLLho_Wu2HBHk

Punisher Bass 10-15-2016 09:58 PM

All I have is this cheap $6 multimeter I got from Harbor Freight, and as I said I don't really know what I'm doing with it, so if I sound like an idiot here, please forgive me.

As I understood it after watching that video and a couple others, I set mine to 2000k that also has the ohm symbol next to it. I touched the leads to each end of the capacitor and got nothing, so I switched them around and got a number in the 600's, which then started falling the longer I kept them connected.

I then discharged it (I think) using a screwdriver, I tested it again and got a number in the 300's which kept climbing. I switched the leads around and got a number somewhere in the negatives.

Does that actually reveal anything of value, or did I just waste my time doing the wrong thing?

brobriffin 10-16-2016 09:12 AM

That is a crude way to test a capacitor however that way doesn't give definite results. It sounds as if it might be ok the only way to know for sure is to be able to test it's capacitance (farads) not just its resistance (ohms)
Since you do not have a digital multimeter perhaps a friend, neighbor or relative might have one to borrow.
In the mean time have you tried the spare timer?

Punisher Bass 10-16-2016 02:14 PM

Well this is what I have, 7 Function Multimeter. And I've put feelers out but it seems like no one I know either has a multimeter or they have the same one as I do. I could get a more advanced one, such as this though Digital Multimeter - Save on this AC/DC Digital Multimeter. I see there's a section labeled "f", is that what I'd use for testing farads? If so, what number would I need to set it to?

I have not tried the salvage timer yet, mainly because I don't relish the idea of manually pumping the water out again if that's not the cause.

brobriffin 10-18-2016 11:01 AM

I would recommend this one
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Southwire-D...meter/50125841
It has a setting for CAP (capacitance) that will automatically check for micro farads and nano farads.
The one you show only has a max setting for 20 f micro farads and we need to be up between 189-227 f.
The one I show also has an adapter to check temperature. I use this in my work to check the exhaust temp reading of dryers to see if they cycle between 155/165 to 125/135 degrees roughly. Lets me know if exhaust is clear and cycling thermostat is operating properly.

Punisher Bass 10-18-2016 02:19 PM

It's not available within 30 miles of me, but this one https://m.lowes.com/pd/Southwire-Dig...meter/50125843 is. Good enough?


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