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Old 10-19-2013, 11:59 AM
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Kenmore 80 Series top loader.

Water was leaking, so the old owners replaced it, and gave it to me. They couldn't find the leak. I took the thing apart, and ran the cycle, and saw water coming from the transmission arm, so I naturally thought it was the tub seal. I just got done replacing it, and the thing still leaks from the exact same area.

The weird part is the water doesn't come from the outer tub, but it actually looks like it's coming out of the inside of the drive arm. It's not coming out and around the unit on the bottom, as if it's coming out of the tub seal and down onto it. It's actually coming out of the little holes on the bottom of the drive arm.

I'm at a loss. Am I going to have to replace the transmission, or is there a seal that I overlooked when I took the thing apart?


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Probably have a leaking centerpost seal or drive tube seal. This would cause water to come out from within the brake hub/clutch hub area.

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Probably have a leaking centerpost seal or drive tube seal. This would cause water to come out from within the brake hub/clutch hub area.

Eric
Are those serviceable? When disassembling the tub unit I didn't notice any accessible seals. I'm guessing they are the black seals on the drive arm at 4:44 on the repair video on this parts site?

Looks like I'll have to start disassembly again.
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Yes, those are the seals. It is very rare for them to fail, I've never replaced one and I believe specialized tools are required to replace them. If water is coming out from within the brake hub/clutch hub area, it has to be one of those seals. If the tub seal was leaking, it would be coming down the outside of the tub support.

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So I finally got the washer pulled back apart (it's midterm time...so sue me).

Sure enough, I have about a 1cm gap in the seal that goes between (what I believe is) the brake shaft and the drive shaft. Definitely the source of the leaking.

Does it really take a specialty tool to repair this? My wife and I have been out a washer for too long, and we started shopping for a used replacement...but I'd hate to chuck a whole unit out because of one stupid seal. I'd especially hate to chuck it out after the hours I've put into cleaning it and repairing it.

Any information would be great. I can't find much on repairing seals for drive shafts.
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Top seal in this photo? You may be able to get the seals out and new ones in without special tools. Your on your own. I believe there will be two seals between agitator shaft and basket drive, one on top of the other (drive tube seal and oil seal).

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Its actually the bottom seal on that photo. The top one looks fine. Its the bigger one that sits stationary around the rotating shaft.
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That would be this one. Diagram shows two upper seals. Make sure centerpost is perfectly horizontal when removing basket drive as there is turbine oil in there.

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Added: Older direct drive models used two upper seals that were tall. A newer design has the upper bearing closer to the top of the tube and only one smaller seal is used. These seals and bearings are pressed in. You may be able to figure out a way fashioning your own installation tools to get the job done, or just replace the tub support and basket drive. Those seals must be greased.

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