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I have Kenmore 70 series washer that stops during cycle. This is how it goes: Fills, agitates, timer dial progresses

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Old 01-28-2013, 05:44 PM
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Model Number: 110.22702100   Brand: Kenmore   Age: 1 - 5 years   

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I have Kenmore 70 series washer that stops during cycle.
This is how it goes:
Fills, agitates, timer dial progresses
When it comes to the end of the first cycle where it should drain it stops and doesnt drain to go to the next cycle.
If i slowly advance the dial just a hair or two it goes into drain/spin and dumps the water.
It then fills up for the next cycle which I think is the rinse portion, then it agitates and spins out/drains on its own.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Bad timer.

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Bad timer.

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Is there a way to test it. I only ask cause I have been doing reading on the forum and some people also say it could be the lid switch but I haven't had time to test it tonight. Just found this site late tonight. Thanks for the answer. How would I test it. Is there a way ?
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If it was the lid switch, it wouldn't drain/spin at all, regardless of the position of the timer knob. There are a set of "bypass" contacts in the timer that bypass the water level pressure switch when it's time for drain/spin. The bypass contacts are in series with the lid switch. Both the bypass contacts and lid switch must be closed (and making good contact) in order for drain/spin to work. Apparently, the bypass contacts are not initially closing when they should. This not only kills power to the motor, it kills power to the timer motor, so the timer does not advance any further on it's own. Turning the knob manually a couple clicks is engaging the bypass contacts completing the circuit. Take a look at the schematic on the inside of the rear panel and you'll see the bypass contacts, labled "2" and the lid switch in series with each other. You could check these contacts with multimeter across the blk/wht and gry wires on the timer. When the timer gets to the rinse cycle, the same bypass contacts are used but a different part of the cam on the spool in the timer is closing these contacts.

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If it was the lid switch, it wouldn't drain/spin at all, regardless of the position of the timer knob. There are a set of "bypass" contacts in the timer that bypass the water level pressure switch when it's time for drain/spin. The bypass contacts are in series with the lid switch. Both the bypass contacts and lid switch must be closed (and making good contact) in order for drain/spin to work. Apparently, the bypass contacts are not initially closing when they should. This not only kills power to the motor, it kills power to the timer motor, so the timer does not advance any further on it's own. Turning the knob manually a couple clicks is engaging the bypass contacts completing the circuit. Take a look at the schematic on the inside of the rear panel and you'll see the bypass contacts, labled "2" and the lid switch in series with each other. You could check these contacts with multimeter across the blk/wht and gry wires on the timer. When the timer gets to the rinse cycle, the same bypass contacts are used but a different part of the cam on the spool in the timer is closing these contacts.

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Is there a diagram out there to assit in this? Im great mechanically but im more of a picture or video guy when it comes to electrical items.
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If it is the timer what is the part number and where can i find it?
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I gave you the link to the timer in post #2. There should be a wiring diagram inside the washer. Either on the inside of the back panel, behind the control panel or inside the cabinet somewhere.

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I gave you the link to the timer in post #2. There should be a wiring diagram inside the washer. Either on the inside of the back panel, behind the control panel or inside the cabinet somewhere.

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Thanks if totally missed it just pulling my head out with this.
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I gave you the link to the timer in post #2. There should be a wiring diagram inside the washer. Either on the inside of the back panel, behind the control panel or inside the cabinet somewhere.

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I tested the lid switch and it is good so I guess it would be the Timer then? Should I just replace it or is there a test for that also?
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Also, I did notice, the machine having 4 wash type selection, Handwash, Delicate, Regular and heavy that this only happend on the latter of the two. In Delicate and Handwash there is not a problem. Any more insight.
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