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proton17  
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 1, 2011 7:31:03 AM(UTC)
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Hi -

Sorry if this post is long, but I wanted to give all the background. The actual questions are summarized at the end.

Our GE Adora washer started leaking water while operating. The washer was purchased in Boston in 2006, but we now live in Montreal, Canada. I called Sears Repair Service (we've been dealing with them for furnace and other things), and when they came they quickly identified the problem as a torn Front Door Gasket. The difficulties started when it came time to identify the model number and required part number. The technician looked everywhere for the model number, which he said should normally be on a sticker around the door opening (there was nothing). We both looked everywhere for a model and serial number plaque, and could find nothing. I still had the receipt and a copy of the warranty card, which indicated the model number was WHDVH626FWW.

The Sears technician insisted that this could not possibly be the model number, and that we could not trust those documents. He nonetheless called the number in to his parts department, who also said they could not find this model number in their system. I searched on the web, and found some indication that in Canada this washer may be sold under the model number GCVH6260 (option for French language panel?) and that model number is indeed one of the ones included on the Owner's manual for our machine. At the end of this first service visit, the tech grudgingly took down the model number from the warranty card, and said he'd look into it further to try and find the correct replacement boot gasket. The bill for this service call included a hefty chunk of time during which the tech was on the phone with the parts dept. trying to figure out the model.

A few days later, I got a call from Sears Service indicating they had the part and wanted to schedule a return visit to do the repair. A different tech came for this visit, and he was also rather shocked to find there was no model identification sticker inside the front door frame. He had a gasket with him, but after opening the box and comparing to what was still on the machine, he looked doubtful as to whether it was the right one. He pried out the old gasket, and compared it with the new one and announced there was no way the new gasket would fit. He was particularly concerned that the new gasket had a large rubber projection (looks like a handle) on the inside that was not present on the old gasket.

As the tech was about to leave, I was Googling our model number and was thrilled to find appliancepartspros.com and quickly found the gasket for a WCVH6260F0WW, which seems very close to my machine's model number. I showed the tech this page, which indicated a part number of AP4334050 for the gasket at:

Part Details - GE Gasket, part number: AP4334050

The tech looked at this, but claimed that AP4334050 did not correspond to the parts numbering used by Sears. The gasket in the picture also has the rubber 'handle' on the inside that had concerned the tech. He left saying that he would get back to the parts department and try again to identify the correct part.

If I'd known about this site before, and had thought to actually check the gasket, I might have just tried to repair it myself based on the excellent instructions I found in other threads. I'm still considering doing this, but wanted to clarify a few points before ordering the part. So here finally are my specific questions:

1) Is the AP4334050 gasket indeed the correct number for a WHDVH626FWW washer purchased in the US in 2006? Is the rubber 'handle' a feature that was added in a later design of this part? Will it be compatible? Can I ignore the extra trailing zero in the washer model number I found on appliancepartspros.com?

2) What might have caused the gasket to tear? I have to confess that my pump filter (AP4360540) got to be in pretty awful shape on a couple of occasions. I found stuff like children's socks in it, which might have happened after the tear? Is it possible that blockage of this filter will cause too much pressure to build up, bursting the gasket? The tech also mentioned the importance of using only HE detergent, which we have not always done (too much pressure from suds?). Finally my wife is really bad at leaving stuff in her pockets in the wash so it might have been torn by some hard object.

3) The filter pump on our 2006 machine is covered by a panel that has to be unbolted to access it, which is partly why I didn't look at it more often. I noticed that newer machines seem to have a small access panel - is it possible to order one of the newer panels, with filter access, to replace the old one and facilitate cleaning?

4) Is it reasonable for Sears Service to have so much trouble finding the correct part? I'm looking at something like a $400 repair now, including the $170 they charge for the gasket plus all the time spent to figure out the correct part. I don't mind paying the initial $100 minimum service call since they did quickly find the problem, but this is getting ridiculous. I am considering just ordering and installing the part myself, and politely requesting to Sears that fees beyond the $100 minimum service call be waived.

Thanks in advance for any info someone can provide, and for this excellent forum resource!

Rick
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sidfink43  
#2 Posted : Monday, January 3, 2011 9:13:01 AM(UTC)
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Hi rick

Well sorry you have had those problems, but the problem is with Sears which uses different model and part numbers for Canadian machines as opposed to U. S. machines, and I am sure the Canadian techs were just not familiar with this problem and had not come accross it. The fault lies with Sears, who should have immediately identified the issue when the tech called them, but this is the problem with a large no longer customer friendly company.

I think the repair cost is excessive, since Sears should have been able to identify the part immediately and got it to you post haste. If you contact Sears they may be able to give you some credit on the bill, but it will be up to them.

As far as the correct part, talk with APP but if they list it for your model number that should be the right one. APP parts number are different then Sears. I went on the Sears site, got their part number for the gasket and then cross referenced it to APP (we who respond on this Forum are volunteers and not associated with APP) and got the same part.

Part number: AP4334050
Part number: AP4334050


so it should be the one you need.


I don't know what caused your gasket to fail, this is one of the weak parts of front loaders. Here is a link to a download for a manual for a machine that should be very similar to yours.

31-9135 GE Front Load Washer Service Manual - ApplianceDigest.com



You really need to use HE detergent, and very little of it.

Good luck, hope all this helps.
proton17  
#3 Posted : Monday, January 3, 2011 5:15:28 PM(UTC)
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Thanks very much sidfink!

This is extremely helpful. I finally called GE USA, who were able to give me the part number WH08X10036, which they claim supersedes a number of older part numbers including the AP4334050 (which I'm sure would also do the job). I was then able to get through to someone at Sears parts who was able to untangle the whole story, finding the corresponding Sears number (has some additional digits prefixed to the GE part number, i.e. 26978WH08X10036). It is looking like the second tech who came to our place actually had the correct part - he was put off by the projection on the interior of the seal. Apparently this rubber 'handle' is part of the newer versions of the seals...

I'm going to wait for the final tally of hours and dollars from Sears and if the hours include an excessive amount of inefficient phone searching I'll send a polite written request for an abatement on that (who knows what will happen).

I hope it comes soon, because the laundry piles are getting pretty big!

Thanks again,

Rick
sidfink43  
#4 Posted : Monday, January 3, 2011 5:17:27 PM(UTC)
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Well good luck, keep at em and let us know how it all works out. If you are going to be in the part business big time like Sears you ought to be able to handle these things on the first go round.
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