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dwgfelix  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 8, 2015 8:36:01 AM(UTC)
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I have a 15 year old, Kenmore side by side refrigerator that the Evaporator fan has stopped working. I have performed the following tests and observations.

Plug in the fridge and the compressor and condensor fan comes on, but the Evaporator fan does not.

Connecting the Evaporator fan directly to 120 volts ac works fine, so the fan is fine.

Line voltage measured at the fan supply terminals is 65 volts and should be 120.

What can I check next? The appliance is getting old, so I don't want to put too much money in this as it is only a matter of time before the unit completely stops from old age. But if this is an easy fix, I could justify spending a few dollars on it to keep it running. Hate to scrap this unit, because it is in really good shape.
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CletusT  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 9, 2015 7:58:27 PM(UTC)
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You are on the right track, in that, one that is 15 years old is probably made better than the newest ones. I have seen fridges from the 1950's and 1970's still running. Many these days will last an average of 5 years, so hold on to it.
It may not have to have 120 volts into the fan, many operate on less, even 13 volts.
My guess would be if it isn't stuck in defrost mode, the fan may be bad. Some fans will run, but run too slowly to work right.
If the machine is plugged in, compressor running, condenser fan running, are the evaporator coils frosting up?
Also keep in mind, some units will only let the evaporator fan run when the door is closed, so sometimes that door switch gets worn and won't allow the evap fan to work.
dwgfelix  
#3 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 4:39:07 AM(UTC)
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This model fridge does not shut down the evaporator fan when the freezer door is opened.

I have checked the fan for resistance AND tested the fan by supplying 120v ac to the leads and the fan works flawlessly as designed.

I've removed the defrost timer and checked it's terminals and switching and all seems fine there as well. Cycling the defrost switch, does indeed, shutdown the compressor and condensor fan as it should. However, the Evaporator fan still remains silent during all these different settings.

I suppose I have only to follow the leads back from the fan, to determine where the voltage drops from 120 to the 65 I'm measuring at the fan. I know that if the line voltage at the fan were in deed 120, the fan would run.

I've only found one similar report listed on the web that is close to what I'm seeing, but have found no answer or cause listed to attribute to this condition. So Onward I forge.
denman  
#4 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 5:09:19 AM(UTC)
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Do you have the wiring diagram?

It may be in the machine (compressor) compartment or taped to the back of the unit.

On many units the compressor, the condenser (compressor fan and the evaporator fan are wired in parallel so that when one is on they all should be on.
But some units have only the compressor and it's fan wired in parallel.
The evaporator fan actually gets power through the defrost heater and defrost thermostat when they are off (run mode) because the fan current draw is low this does not heat up the defrost heater.
You will need the wiring diagram or trace the wires back from the fan to see if this is the case.
If yes then check those two components.

CletusT may know if this is a possibility as I do not.
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Coriantor  
#5 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 3:31:32 AM(UTC)
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dwgfelix - did you figure out anything on this? What caused the fan motor to not work?
dwgfelix  
#6 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2015 4:32:17 AM(UTC)
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Well, it appears that the defrost thermostat limiter was defective. But this was not immediately apparent.

Several advisers lead me in other directions, but I finally ordered this limiter and installed it. Well, that didn't work!! Actually, I didn't THINK it worked, yet the fan was working and spinning normally.

In the end, the problem(s) were 3 at once, which is what made diagnosing the troubles so difficult.

1) The thermostat limiter was defective.
2) The thermostat limiter in 'this' model appliance HAS to get VERY VERY cold before it will allow the current to flow to the evaporator fan. This can take and did take over an hour, which I think is excessive.
3) It also turned out that the Plastic Fan Blade shaft hole had a very tiny split in it, that allowed the fan to spin on the shaft, without the motor turning and vice versa. So when the motor WAS running and spinning, the blade stayed put, making it appear the motor was not working.

So this one was not one of your normal events, and thus, the only way to figure it out, was to just keep digging. Had I known more about appliance operations, I 'might' have been able to identify the issues much sooner. But I think it would have still been a challenge. Good thing I wasn't paying someone to fix this!!! : )

One additional tip to help get the fan spinning AND bring the temperature down in the freezer is to take a small jumper wire, and jump the thermostat limiter at the by pass plug. This will allow the fan to run when the limiter has not cooled down enough to close the circuit on it's own. After about 20 minutes, I was able to remove the jumper, and the fan continued to run normally thereafter. (See illustration)

Thanks for the suggestions, and hope this helps someone in the future.
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