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Old 06-09-2010, 08:06 AM
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Model Number: 596.51673100   Brand: Kenmore   Age: 1 - 5 years   

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I have the problem of the freezer is fine but the fridge is warm. I have read numerous posts but when I search for a diagram of my fridge it says there is nothing. There is ice build up in the feezer and I don't hear a fan turning. Any help would be appreciated. I edited this because the fan in the freezer is turning.

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Old 06-09-2010, 10:22 AM
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I see Norm Poulin asked about this refrigerator back in 2008 and no one ever replied. I assume I will get the same treatment as I posted this hours ago.
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:13 PM
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I have no idea why Norm did not get an answer.

This forum is manned by appliance techs and DIYers, all of them are volunteers.

AppliancePartsPros fund this site and do not require anything from you, which I personally think is a very good public service.
Note that I am just a volunteer.

If you need/expect a response ASAP the I would respectfully suggest you try Sears (good luck with that) or one of the sites that will want a credit card number before they answer anything.

OK, there I have vented, now onto your problem.

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Unfortunately there is no parts breakdown diagrams.

The unit is actually an Amana made by Whirlpool.
I have no way of cross referencing Sears model numbers to the actual manufacturers number and Sears does not give out any technical data.

There is ice build up in the feezer
Could be you have a defrost problem. It will show up first in the fresh food side and later in the freezer side. Remove the evaporator cover from inside the freezer so you can check the coils. If they are heavily frosted/iced up then defrost is not working and the fan cannot circulate air through the coils to cool it properly or push it into the fresh food side.

Usually this is troubleshot by forcing a defrost but I do not know how to do this on this unit. Hopefully someone else will jump in who does know.
You could try unplugging the unit then plugging it back in. See Page 40 in the below manual or by hitting the door switch 5 times in 6 seconds. You will know when it goes into defrost as the compressor and the fans will shut off.

First remove the evaporator cover in the freezer so you can see the coils.
Not do not let them de-ice.
If they are heavily iced/frosted over you have a defrost problem.

If yes.
Manually force a defrost cycle.
Now check the defrost heater to see if it is on.
Be careful you do not want to burn your fingers.
If the heater is on then the defrost control board needs replacing, as it is not cycling automatically into a defrost cycle.

If not on.
Unplug the unit.
Remove the wire for one side of the heating element from the wiring and measure it for continuity, usually around 20 ohms or so.

If the heater is OK
Remove one wire to the defrost thermostat and measure it, should be 0 ohms when frozen. Note that it opens just above freezing so must be frozen to check it. Also inspect it, if it is bulged at all replace it even if it measures OK.

If both the above are OK then odds are the defrost timer contacts are toast.
Best way to test this is a live test to see if you have 120 volts across the heater/defrost thermostat combo.

Note: If you cannot force a defrost then check the heater and the defrost thermostat, if both OK then I would assume that the defrost board is shot. Only other cause I can think of is a bad wire or connection.

If you do not own a meter, I would suggest you purchase a one. You can get a decent digital multimeter for under $20.00. You do not need fancy though it is nice if the leads are a couple feet long.
If it saves ordering one unnecessary part it has paid for itself and you end up owning a useful tool.
Most places will not let you return electrical parts so if you order it, you own it.
A couple things to watch when measuring ohms and continuity
1. Always remove power from the machine otherwise you could blow your meter.
2. Always disconnect at least one side of any device you are checking. This eliminates the possibility of measuring an alternate/parallel circuit path.
3. When checking for closed contacts and continuity use the lowest scale (Usually 200 ohms). Then try higher scales. This scale is 0 to 200 ohms so if the device you are measuring is 300 ohms this scale would show an open circuit which it is not, you are just measuring outside the scale's dynamic range.

There is a good STICKY at the start of this forum about it's use.
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Just to add my 2 cents...

You said:
...There is ice build up in the freezer and I don't hear a fan turning...
The problem can be a bad evaporator fan motor (#22 on the diagram).

- The evaporator fan motor Part number: AP4366692

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Old 06-10-2010, 02:32 AM
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Looks like he came back a second time and edited the post
"I edited this because the fan in the freezer is turning."

Though it may be a mute point as it does not look like he has returned to pick up any posts.

May not even be a defrost problem I guess we will have to wait and see.

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When a junior member starts calling others names and the mods think it's ok, I'm not interested. I have fixed the problem after waiting half the day for a response. I'm a computer tech and very familiar with electronics. As far as being a "numbnuts" maybe tex should check his own.
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I might be wrong, but I think texsyn's sense of humor driven foot accidentally got stuck in the wrong place I really don't think he was trying to insult you stratblast, as he himself was here to ask for help (Holy Moly my BX22S5W / P1196708WW done broke, and thus had to have been referring to himself, right texsyn?

In any case, I will go ahead and edit the post in question. Verbal abuse and disrespectful statements towards other members are certainly not allowed here.
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Oops my bad. Sorry should not have said what I did.
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Looks like it is in the fresh food section, see the attachment. It is Item 6.

Will I be ok for a few days until I can get a new defrost control bourd ? Im thinking it operates on average once a month ? Should be fine ?
It should be OK for a few days.
The cycle depends on how often the doors are opened. Usually it will defrost every day or less but it takes a while for the frost to build up to where it causes a problem.
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