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Old 12-06-2009, 01:31 AM
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Model Number: AGS745E   Brand: Amana   Age: More than 10 years   

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I have a 15 plus year old Amana slide in range that has quit sparking. It really never has worked properly. During use, it would spark continuously most of the time. It seems like if you were only using one burner it would work ignite the burner and quiit sparking once lit, but over time it just got worse. Now it does nothing. I have to light with a match. Before it failed comletely, it would spark continuously and quit once the stove was hot and that would be it until the stove cooled. Then it would lite maybe a few more times. It eventually quit altogether. I am guessing it is the spark module. Do I need any other parts to repair? Where is the spark module located and how hard is it to replace?

Also the left door hinge decided to break as well so I need a little help in that area too.

Thanks in advance

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I never got an answer on the location of the spark module. After searching the internet hi and lo I never found the answers I needed. The only response was the $$ answer guy who wanted to know how much I was will to pay to answer a simple question. No way! Anyhow I ordered a replacement spark module and started tearing into the stove. For those who have a AGR745, the spark module is located on the left side of the range just under the rear heat vent.

To remove all you need is a screw driver and a pair of needle nose pliers.

TURN OFF CIRCUIT BREAKER TO OVEN BEFORE BEGINNING ANY WORK!!

1. Remove grates and burner caps
2. Remove screw holding flame spreaders (1) each
3. Remove burner screws (1) each burner
4. Remove two screws on top of heat vent housing for grill
5. Remove four screws from grill face, remove grill and set aside
6. Tilt oven away from wall and prop in tilted position. remove two screws on each end that holds the vent housing. Remove vent housing and set aside.
7. You can see the spark module clearly on left side at the top. Remove two screws and remove.
8. Set new spark module next to wired module and start moving wires one at a time to proper location. I marked the location of the hi voltage wires for each burner on top of the spark module before starting with a sharpie to make sure each went to the correct location.
9. Once the wiring is completed. Re-install the spark module.
10. NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO CLEAN THE ACCUMULATED GREASE AND GRIME FROM THE METAL PARTS THAT NEVER SEE DAYLIGHT.
11. Once clean put everything back together in reverse order. Once the side screws are in the vent housing you can remove your prop and lower the oven. Be sure to push it back in place if it moved from its original position.
12. Turn breaker back on and test.

My spark module is working again but I have continuous sparking. Don't know what is going on but at least I don't have to use a butane match to light anymore.

On the door hinge, it turns out that the hinge pin sheared. I replaced with a hardened bolt and nut and I'm back in business. To remove the hinge tho would be a pain in the butt. The hinge is under spring tension and it will work against you from every direction. Hope this helps someone.

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Hi Jack,

Sorry we missed your first post. Thank you for sharing your diagnosis and repair with us. Your post was very informative.

There are a few things which can cause continuous sparking. It can be reversed polarity (inside or outside the range), bad ground, miswired spark module as well as many others.

There are eight terminals on a spark module which are marked like "reig1", "reig2", etc. There are 4 small terminals on one side of the spark module which should be connected to the burner igniters and four others for ignition switches connection. It is critically important to connect burner igniter and ignition switch for the same burner to the identically marked terminals.



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Hi Jack,

Sorry we missed your first post. Thank you for sharing your diagnosis and repair with us. Your post was very informative.

There are a few things which can cause continuous sparking. It can be reversed polarity (inside or outside the range), bad ground, miswired spark module as well as many others.

There are eight terminals on a spark module which are marked like "reig1", "reig2", etc. There are 4 small terminals on one side of the spark module which should be connected to the burner igniters and four others for ignition switches connection. It is critically important to connect burner igniter and ignition switch for the same burner to the identically marked terminals.



The following article on our forum will explain in detail how to diagnose erratic ignition - How Reignition System Works.

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Thanks Gene,
I am going to go back in and check the hi voltage wiring. After reviewing the wiring diagram. I may have a the wires swapped for the left side. I did a one to one wire transfer but never thought that it would be wired wrong from the factory. I have had trouble from day one. I did discover that if all burners are on the sparking stops. Turn one off and it starts again.

BTW, Thanks for the reply.

Jack
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You are welcome, Jack.

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...I did discover that if all burners are on the sparking stops...
It can be a sign of miswiring.

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I removed the burners and cleaned them top and bottom. I cleaned every contact point that could affect a good ground. I retraced the wiring and found two crossed reignition wires. After getting everything back together, the continuous sparking is now isolated to either the front burners or the rear. I have retraced every wire and the only thing left now is the spark switches. Can the spark switches cause continuous sparking? According to the wiring diagram, the spark switches just complete the circuit to energize the spark module. If a spark switch was bad wouldn't that prevent the spark module from working? Is it possible that the spark module I just purchased is bad? The continuous sparking is now 1/2 as bad but not eliminated.
My question is whats left to check?
Thanks
Jack

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Have you checked the burner igniters? Especially their ceramic part for any hairline cracks?

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