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After warming something up yesterday the microwave display turned off and would not respond. I *think* the cycle finished but

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Old 11-29-2009, 12:22 PM
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Model Number: JTP86S0H5SS   Brand: GE   Age: 1 - 5 years   

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After warming something up yesterday the microwave display turned off and would not respond. I *think* the cycle finished but my wife was using it so I'm not sure if it shut down while running or after she opened the door. The microwave light also stayed off when the door was opened. The lower oven and display worked as usual. Today I shut down the power and opened up the control panel. After checking the fuse (it is ok) and continuity/operation of the door switches/interlock switches several different times (they seemed to be working OK) I got fed up and closed it all back up and turned the power back on. Surprise - the microwave display was lit up saying "RESET". I set the time and tested it out - the microwave seems to work like usual. The problem is when I turned the power back on the oven cooling fan came on and runs constantly. The oven hadn't been used in a day so there really isn't a reason for it to be running. I did have to disconnect a few wires to get to the fuse and test the switches but I'm 99% sure I plugged everything back up correctly (the schematic is useless to me). Web searches have proven to be little help. Can anyone provide any guidance as to what needs to be done or what I could have broken would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance for any help! Oh, I'm not sure if this post should be in the microwave or oven forum so I'm going to cross post. Please don't flame me...

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Old 12-01-2009, 04:57 PM
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If you can make a clean scan of the "schematic" section of the mini-manual that's inside the unit and post it here, that would help me confirm this, but here goes:

This oven is made just like a counter top oven but it's stacked with a conventional oven as part of a combo.

So the only fan in it would be the internal magnetron cooling fan.

It is not activated by a thermostat, it is supposed to come on only when the oven is cooking.

The only thermostat in the microwave is attached to the magnetron to shut down power when it overheats.

Chances are you have a stuck fan relay on the circuit board, which we regularly repair nationwide by mail for $39.95 postpaid in about a week or so.

Once you post the schematic, I can confirm this.
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:29 PM
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Here is the schematic and wiring diagram scanned from the TDS.

http://mysite.verizon.net/reszv36o/s...es/image-3.pdf - you'll definately need to zoom but it is readable.

I did pull the board today and checked continuity on the fan relay (RY-3) (two pins on the back side of the PCB that are by side that are slightly offset) - the switch was open. I put the board back in and powered up - the switch was then closed with the door open - it should be open based on the schematic. I suppose the circuit could have been completed through the wires that led to each side of the relay - I hate electronics. Also, there is a thermostat/TCO (FAN THERMAL TCO) that turns on the magnetron fan when the MW isn't running - the switch is normally open but closes and turns on the fan when the sensor detects a temp above 157 degrees caused by the lower oven being on. It is supposed to prevent damage to the MW electronics when the oven is/was on.

Did I mention I hate electronics? Grrrrr.

Thanks for the help.
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