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Old 05-20-2009, 12:03 PM
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Model Number: PHO303UWW   Brand: Modern Maid   Age: More than 10 years   

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The lower oven suddenly stopped baking although the broiler still worked. We figured it was the bake ignitor.We ordered the ignitors through Appliancepartspros.com. My husband replaced it (it is much harder to change on the lower oven). It worked fine for one baking time and then the next time I turned on the oven to bake, the new one didn't work. Is there something we can check - he connected the wires with ceramic wire connectors. Is there something we can check to see why it isn't working again?

Also, on the top oven, I believe the broiler ignitor needs to be replaced (I ordered a few ignitors when the lower oven went - they seem to burn out every couple of years.) It glows but takes awhile to ignite. Once it ignites, a very weak flame kind of travels across the broiler but never lights completely lit - it just keeps flickering across the broiler or goes out altogether. How do you get to the wires in the top broiler ignitor? And any suggestions about the flame?


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1. The lower oven suddenly stopped baking although the broiler still worked. We figured it was the bake ignitor.We ordered the ignitors through Appliancepartspros.com. My husband replaced it (it is much harder to change on the lower oven). It worked fine for one baking time and then the next time I turned on the oven to bake, the new one didn't work. Is there something we can check - he connected the wires with ceramic wire connectors. Is there something we can check to see why it isn't working again?

2. Also, on the top oven, I believe the broiler ignitor needs to be replaced (I ordered a few ignitors when the lower oven went - they seem to burn out every couple of years.) It glows but takes awhile to ignite. Once it ignites, a very weak flame kind of travels across the broiler but never lights completely lit - it just keeps flickering across the broiler or goes out altogether. How do you get to the wires in the top broiler ignitor? And any suggestions about the flame?
1. Check the igniter for continuity. Check if there is 120VAC to the igniter while the control calls for Bake. Post the results.

2. The new igniter should solve all these problems. The Broil igniter is mounted to the Broil burner. Carefully pull the burner out together with the igniter as far as the wires will go and then cut the wires as close to the igniter as possible. Replace the igniter on the burner and then splice the new igniter wires.

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All the ignitors work fine now. But we still have problem with the top oven broiler. The ignitor ignites, the gas goes on but there is no flame on the broiler- if you blow on it there is a partial flame for a second and it goes out, but the gas is still on. Obviously that is a dangerous situation. We took off the broiler burner assembly and it seemed fine. Could it be the orifice is plugged? That happened once a few years ago. If it is the orifice, how do we clear it?
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still have problem with the top oven broiler. The ignitor [glows], the gas goes on but there is no flame on the broiler
Did you replace that broil ignitor??

an ignitor can glow but still be defective as explained at the following link. The only way to determine an oven ignitor's proper functioning is with an amperage draw test on its electrical circuit.

LINK > Understanding Gas Oven Ignition Systems

You can see the broil ignitor for your model at the following link:

LINK > PHO303UWW Broil Ignitor


If the ignitor WAS just replaced with a brand new one and it is acting the way you described, there may be a problem with the oven gas valve not opening properly or maybe a slim chance of an obstruction in the gas line somewhere between that valve and the burner.

LINK > PHO303UWW Oven Bake/Broil Valve

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We just replaced the broil igniter with a brand new one we got from appliancepartspros.com, but the broiler is still acting like it did before. I don't think it is a problem with the ignitor, because it gets hot enough that the gas turns on. It just doesn't produce the flame that it is supposed to. A few years ago, we had a problem where the flame on the broiler was very weak, and it turned out that the repairman came and snaked a very thin but stiff wire up into an area where he said it was obstructed. What do you recommend we do? I hate to pay what always amounts to $200 to have a repair person come to look at it.
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No, if the ignitor was just replaced it should be able to be ruled out.

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it gets hot enough that the gas turns on.
The gas valve could be opening to let gas through but possibly not as much as it is suppose to.

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the repairman snaked a very thin but stiff wire up into an area where he said it was obstructed.
That's possible too. Spiders like to nest in gas lines and dust and grease, etc. can also build up in them or the burner itself.

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What do you recommend we do?
That will be up to you to decide. Cleaning the broil burner and/or its connecting tubing could be tried. Whether you can to that I don't know. Sometimes compressed air can be used to clear dust and cobwebs. Grease or rust might require more physical methods. A new broil burner looks like it might not available so that may not be an option either.

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Looking at my notes - the repairman actually cleaned out the orifice with a safety pin and it worked fine - that was 3 years ago almost exactly to the day. Is that something we can do ourselves?
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the repairman actually cleaned out the orifice with a safety pin and it worked fine. Is that something we can do ourselves?
It might be possible for you to do yourself but I don't recommend it. The orifice could be damaged in the process allowing too much gas to flow through it.

I'd suggest getting a *licensed* gas appliance service technician to look into it for you. You've done the simple things that can be tried. Anything to do with the actual gas system should be performed by someone qualified and with experience in what they are doing. Sorry.

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Thanks for your help. I will call in a professional.
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The repairman came. Ignitor was fine. He cleaned out the orifice, blew out the broiler burner and it works fine - 10 mins. work.
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