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Palmer123  
#1 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:23:44 AM(UTC)
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About a week ago the dryer ran all night without turning off automatically. Even when I manually turn the dial to shut it off it keeps running. I have to open the door to stop. When I close the door it remins off until I push the start button again. Everything else seems to operate fine i now have to mannually time the drying time.
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glen65  
#2 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:25:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Palmer123 Go to Quoted Post
About a week ago the dryer ran all night without turning off automatically. Even when I manually turn the dial to shut it off it keeps running. I have to open the door to stop. When I close the door it remins off until I push the start button again. Everything else seems to operate fine i now have to mannually time the drying time.


Which cycle does this happen on?
The regular timed cycle, the automatic, or all of them?
Palmer123  
#3 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 2:24:57 PM(UTC)
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Which cycle does this happen on?
The regular timed cycle, the automatic, or all of them?

This happens on all cycles.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:07:51 PM(UTC)
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Ok here's the timer,
The round thing is the motor.
With the dryer on and set on (timed dry)
One would have to do an AC voltage check
at the two leads which connect to the timer
from the motor. The voltage should be 120 Volts.
If the voltage is present then the timer motor is bad.


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Palmer123  
#5 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 5:46:21 AM(UTC)
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Ok here's the timer,
The round thing is the motor.
With the dryer on and set on (timed dry)
One would have to do an AC voltage check
at the two leads which connect to the timer
from the motor. The voltage should be 120 Volts.
If the voltage is present then the timer motor is bad.


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Hi Glen,
I think the motor is working because when you set the timer, the dial does move but when it gets to the end of it's time the dryer never shuts off. Also when you manually turn the dial to off it does not shut the dryer off. I will check the voltage as you recommended but does the timer motor have anything to do with actually turning off the dryer?
Thanks
Greg
glen65  
#6 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 6:22:38 AM(UTC)
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The motor just advances the dial and internal cam.
The switches inside the timer are what actually shut things
on and off. Based on your description it looks like one of the
switches may be shorted together.
Palmer123  
#7 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 7:11:22 AM(UTC)
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Glen,
Does that mean I need to replace that entire switch assembly that you sent the picture of?...or could it be the small circuit board next to it?
Thanks
Greg
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#8 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 7:12:35 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: glen65 Go to Quoted Post
The motor just advances the dial and internal cam.
The switches inside the timer are what actually shut things
on and off. Based on your description it looks like one of the
switches may be shorted together.



Not to say the timer isn't bad and don't want to second guess the other diagnosis, but this model was famous for the control switch to cause your problem. Especially if it doesn't shut off in time dry either. The below part along with the electronic board comes into play the last couple of minutes even in a timed dry mode. There use to be a old trick, I'll try to remember it. Remove power from unit, remove the blue/black wire from the control switch, turn the timer into the timed dry cycle and slowly turn it towards the off position. As you get close to off, you'll hear a click, go just a hair further and you should hear a second click, stop there. Make sure the disconnected wire isn't touching anything, plug back in and start the dryer. Wait about 3 minutes and see if the bell rings, if it does the below part is the culprit, which is the control switch.

Part number: AP4289885
glen65  
#9 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2009 7:27:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Palmer123 Go to Quoted Post
Glen,
Does that mean I need to replace that entire switch assembly that you sent the picture of?...or could it be the small circuit board next to it?
Thanks
Greg


If what I said earlier is the case then yes you would need to
replace the timer. But I would pay attention to what Frank has
to say also.
Palmer123  
#10 Posted : Friday, October 9, 2009 2:42:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Frank / APP Team Go to Quoted Post
Not to say the timer isn't bad and don't want to second guess the other diagnosis, but this model was famous for the control switch to cause your problem. Especially if it doesn't shut off in time dry either. The below part along with the electronic board comes into play the last couple of minutes even in a timed dry mode. There use to be a old trick, I'll try to remember it. Remove power from unit, remove the blue/black wire from the control switch, turn the timer into the timed dry cycle and slowly turn it towards the off position. As you get close to off, you'll hear a click, go just a hair further and you should hear a second click, stop there. Make sure the disconnected wire isn't touching anything, plug back in and start the dryer. Wait about 3 minutes and see if the bell rings, if it does the below part is the culprit, which is the control switch.

Part number: AP4289885

Hi Glen,
I replaced the timer which was part of the problem but I tried what you sugested for the control switch and it gave me the result you stated where the solenoid would trigger when I removed the blue/Black wire. I have ordered the control switch but i also need to replace the Chime Acutator Assy...Can you send me a decent diagram of how that is supposed to go together. Mine had a broken clip and I bought a new clip but I can't figure out how it's supposed to go together. I still have some of the pieces that are attached ti the solenoid but not sure where the clip goes.
Thanks
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