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Old 07-12-2014, 05:20 PM
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Default Sears Kenmore Dishwasher Water Level Float Seal Leaking? Can it be fixed?
Model Number: 587.14432200   Brand: Kenmore   Age: 5 - 10 years   

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Hello

Yes, It can be fixed and here is how. See all the pics and detail below!

Sears kenmore 18" compact dishwasher 587.14432200 or 587.14439200

Oh-Oh, Saw the ceiling leaking water in the garage!
Nothing under the sink but the inocent dishwasher is next to it on the right.
So I pulled it out and turned it on for a test. After it filled with water the I could see that right around the stem of the water level float there was a stream of leaking water!

The stem rests on a lever to sense different water levels.

Can this be fixed? ? ?
Is this a solution? > Leaking dishwasher float - The DIY Girl

The float itself seems ok. I pulled it out like the manual said and checked it. It seams like the seal around it is failing?

The Dishwasher must be level and the hole must be clean and if there is a worn washer like a Maytag it should be replaced or the switch may be bad. In my case, the hole is clean and there is no washer. I tested the micro switch with a contimuity tester and the contacts do open and close. Could the switch lever need adjustment. I watched the washer run, it does not leak right away so could the water level be too high? What woulld fix it?

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I slowly moved the float up and down by pushing the plastic lever that it was resting on up and down. I could here the switch close when the lever was pushed up, but if I slowly let the lever fall back down the switch will hang and the contacts will not open! So I took a small yankee screw driver and popped the lever out and removed the phillips screw above the lever to remove the plastic assembly that contains the micro switch. Then I removed the switch wires and cleaned the contacts and cleaned the switch lever. After reassembly the switch did not hang when testing by hand. I ran it thru the cycle now to see what happens. It started leaking a little at first when filling with water, then during the wash part of the cycle it leaked alot. While it was leaking alot I pushed up on the lever and heard the contacts of the switch click! Therefore it seams to be over filling because the switch is not stopping it at the right time. I suspect the switch is defective. See pics 9-10
See switch diagram and part pics 11 & 12

Does anyone know for sure if a new switch will fix this issue?
One of my appliance tech friends said the switch fix the problem. :-)
Last pic shows the assembly order. Thanks

See pics
Pic 1 - Inside of Dishwasher. Black arrow shows water level dectector float.
Pic 2 - Close up of water level float
Pic 3 - Manual information on float
Pic 4 - bottom of float stem sitting on round lever tab
Pic 5 - Place of water leak where stem goes through the bottom of the frame. See black arrow
Pic 6 - Top view of dishwasher with float removed. See black arrow.
Pic 7 - bottom side of float. Stem looks good or is it worn?
Pic 8 - Removing the 4 screws and the bottom panel we see the Leak in Action with the dishwasher On and washing after the fillup!
Pic 9 - Switch lever and switch removed.
Pic 10 - still leaking a little initially during the water fill and leak is streaming during the wash cycle.
Pic 11 - Manual Diagram of switch part # 5
Pic 12 - Manual Parts list shows Switch part # 154408701 A B Switch Assy,float
Pic 13 - New Float Switch assembly that should fix the problem!

No, no hair line crack in the tub just a line of hair! LOL

Hello

The saga continues,

I got the switch and installed it. During the fill cycle now, there is no soapy water leaking so that part is fixed,
However during the wash cycle, it started leaking like a sive!

So I moved it to the end of the wash cycle and let it drain out with a pan to catch most of the leaking water.
Then I opened it up and checked the wash arm.Then I saw something stuck in the end spray hole.

So I took it off and dumped out what I saw. Two hard pieces and a piece of glass.

After cleaning the pieces out, I tried it again.
During the wash cycle it was still leaking, I opened the door to look but I thought I saw nothing when in fact I really did.

After rinally viewing this, see last pic below. I did notice the water was still filling!
It says if you see it filling, then the water valve is stuck open!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NiFMxhd-pU

So now the water valve is on order!

Pic 14 - Spray Arm
Pic 15-17 - Someting in the end spray hole
Pic 18-20 - Pieces phone


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The pictutre showing the bottom of the tub with the float removed looks to me like there is a crack/hole here.

The receiver is part of the tub so I would say that it is not repairable.
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Old 07-18-2014, 08:35 PM
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Default Still leaking during fill cycle only now

Hello

It looked like a hair line crack but was just a line of dirty hair! LOL

So I found this video. Video says if you open the door and it is still filling then the valve is stuck open!. That is what I saw!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NiFMxhd-pU

Then I ordered another part - The water valve. Will this fix it?

Pic 21 - Filling water that should not be seen!
Pic 22 - Water valve now on order!
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I cannot say for sure but the odds are good.
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Default Dishwasher is now fixed! It does not leak a drop!

Hello

Well the 1st part, the float switch fixed the small leak when the water was filling!

The 2nd part, the water fill valve that was sticking, fixed the major leak during the wash cycle because the valve stuck open and put too much water in the dish washer!

Dishwasher ran through every cycle without leaking a drop!

See pics of Final Fix!

Pic 1 - New part came priority mail because we did not want to wait another 5 days!
Pic 2 - This part is white not yellow like the old one and the water connection goes strait back not on a 45 degree angle. Looks like a 3rd party part! ! !
Pic 3 - Old part has brass elbow attached, Is this to make it harder for a DIY person so you have to call in a plumber? Not in my case!
Pic 4 - Using a vise grips and my bench vise I easily got the brass elbow off! Now have to clean the old adheasive off with the drill driver!
Pic 5 - Using my favorite FTP paste that I use on boiler connections works great here!
Pic 6 - Back in the vise to tighten the brass elbow onto the water fill valve!
Pic 7 - cranking the ss braided inlet water connection on.
Pic 8 - slipping the black rubber hose water outlet to the dishwasher back on
Pic 9 - sliding the wire connector back on
Pic 10 - mounting the fill valve bracket back on the dishwasher
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